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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 8 months 4 weeks ago #44464

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Something to consider for dosing they are oblate discs-
Read the reviews the first few are all using these to take kratom

www.amazon.com/Oblate-Discs-Japanese-Edible-200pcs...c%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-1

www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B000FQOFLE
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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 8 months 4 weeks ago #44457

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Jyd wrote: I took. 2 doses of 3 grams of red Bali yesterday with minimal effect. (Drinking this pond sludge in larger doses is a trial even when mixing with chocolate syrup and cream or juice ugh. ) thanks for all your posts.


Obviously 3 grams is not enough....BUT you might elaborate on what effects you were seeking.
Are you meaning that there was no effect for the withdrawal symptoms?

If you did not get any results from the first 3 gram dose did you take some more after one hour?

Honestly I don't think that 6 grams in a day is going to help you much given that you have an opiate history. You are going to have to try higher doses, or at least take more within the hour if you do not get good effects.

YES...it is like drinking dirt...BUT you can also make your own capsules which makes it easier, but you have to know how much you need first.
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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 8 months 4 weeks ago #44429

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Jyd, “minimal effect” is a huge difference in the withdrawal experience for the rest of us.

Take pharmaceuticals for more impressive effects!

LOL
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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 8 months 4 weeks ago #44428

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I took. 2 doses of 3 grams of red Bali yesterday with minimal effect. (Drinking this pond sludge in larger doses is a trial even when mixing with chocolate syrup and cream or juice ugh. ) thanks for all your posts.
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Me again.....

I put together this hypothetical diary to show you how it works.

This is COMPLETELY made up out of my head but it does show how someone could arrive at a "sweet spot" of 8 gms 3 times a day for a Kratom dose. This person was able to go for 2 days and nights without any narcotics and now has a good grasp of how to manage this himself.

Over time the "withdrawal symptoms" completely abate and if necessary the Kratom dose can be gradually tapered.

time notes dose

0800 Regular dose of Tramadol
1400 Withdrawal symptoms starting .
Take a dose of Kratom 3 gms
1500 Withdrawal symptoms are worsening
Take more Kratom 2 gms
1600 Withdrawal symptoms still present, not worse but have not abated either.
Take more Kratom 2 gms
1700 Withdrawal symptoms still present, not worse but have not abated either.
Take more Kratom 3 gms
1800 BINGO – feeling much better withdrawal symptoms have abated
1900 Still feeling OK
2000 Withdrawal symptoms starting
Take more Kratom 5 gms
2100 Withdrawal symptoms still present, not worse but have not abated either.
Take more Kratom 3 gms
2200 BINGO – feeling much better withdrawal symptoms have abated
0200 Withdrawal symptoms starting
Take more Kratom 8 gms
0300 Withdrawal abated – able to sleep
0800 Repeat Kratom dose 8 gms
BINGO – feeling much better withdrawal symptoms have abated
1400 Feeling really bad…withdrawal starting again
Repeat Kratom dose 8 gms
1500 BINGO – feeling much better withdrawal symptoms have abated
1900 Feeling really bad…withdrawal starting again
Repeat Kratom dose
8 gms
2000 BINGO – feeling much better withdrawal symptoms have abated

I hope this helps.

REMEMBER this is completely made up dose and times will vary according to individual need.
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Jyd:

I hope you have read this post....it is a good example of the kind of experimenting that one has to do to get this right.

www.ilovekratom.com/forum/kratom-discussion/8521-m...-trouble/reply/44284

You might want to search on the forum for posts from victorb153 ...he has an interesting story to tell which should be encouraging for you.
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Jyd wrote: Thanks. But over the course of a day how often should I take a dose? Every 4 hours? 8hrs?


You are taking Kratom to avoid withdrawal symptoms...at least that is what you told me was your priority.

You take as much as you need as often as you need it to reach that goal! How much and how often is very individual, which is why we cannot give you a number.

Some people found that 2 grams every 3-4 hours would do that...others here on the forum have had to go up to 30gms in order to come out of withdrawal.

you said you were in constant withdrawal from the tapering of Tramadol....Have you found a dose that works to relieve withdrawal symptoms yet?
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I’ll butt in here and others can correct me

Take your medication at whatever time you’re doing and then kratom instead, rotating (taking turns). It’s fine to take AS NEEDED for pain relief, but your expectations must be reasonable in that you will not necessarily be free of all signs of withdrawal but you will be more comfortable.

Hopefully BoMalley will come by and tell you the same.

This is to tide you over until she arrives.
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Thanks. But over the course of a day how often should I take a dose? Every 4 hours? 8hrs?
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If your 3 gms dos not work o resolve withdrawal symptoms with in the hour then take another 2 grams and wait an hour.

You should not be in CONSTANT withdrawal, Kratom can manage that for you . It is just a matter of finding how much you need to stop that.

There is NOTHING about Kratom that is more dangerous than the drugs you are currently taking so you can feel safe to take more.
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