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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 9 months 1 week ago #44382

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I don’t know how often to take the red Bali. ( red Borneo has been ordered) I am on constant withdrawal while weening off tramadol but not as bad as cold turkey. Pain specialist says I should reduce by 12 mg a month. I have dropped 50 in 2 weeks.
I will take a first dose of 3gm red Bali this morning I have had so side effects from previous doses. Happy to chat here. Thanks for guiding me through this.
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Sounds great, Jerry! You’re right on track.
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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 9 months 1 week ago #44376

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1 tsp is approximately 2.5 grams. This may not be enough if you have been taking Tramadol for quite a while.

However, it is a good starting point.

We always recommend using a scale... I got mine (it measures in mg) from amazon.ca and it allows more precise dosing which will be important for you. Search for a jewelry scale on the Amazon website and you should get lots of options...very reasonably priced too.

100mg of Kratom powder is about half the size of your pinky fingernail so it is REALLY easy to get too much or too little by just using a spoon.

So start with 2.5 to 3 grams of Kratom. You should be able to tolerate that as you have said you took between 1 and 2 tsp without any problems. I hope you know how to take it...sprinkle the powder on water ( or another liquid) and let it sit. When it is all dissolved (do not shake or stir) then you can drink it down. shaking or stirring just makes a lot of bubbles and that can make you quite gassy!

Use a glass that has a wide mouth ... it dissolves faster.
The Kratom effect will be to STOP or PREVENT withdrawal symptoms. I know it sounds unbelievable but it is true.

So one more question for you....how long can you go without Tramadol before you start to feel withdrawal symptoms?

Jyd...IF at any time you want to this conversation with me to be private, we can use the personal messaging system of the forum. It is nice for everyone here to learn from your experience, but there is NO requirement for this to be public, so ANYTIME if you want it to be private than that is what we will do.

Taking it private also means that we miss the opportunity to have input from others which as you have seen here can be quite helpful - BUT your choice.
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Vendors in Canada and. Strains 9 months 1 week ago #44375

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I have tried several days of 1 or 2tsp of my green Maeng da. 6-8 hours after my tramadol dose. Barely noticeable / I tried red Bali I have today 1tsp , and had some relief . Ordered red Borneo from Canada kratom. And will use Bali red till it arrives. Not sure how much and how often I should take it. Disinclined to stop tramadol cold turkey when I am still not sure of kratom effect. And my doctors warning to not taper too quickly.
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Jyd wrote: Thanks bev, What do you recommend as a daily routine? Eg. What dosage to start , how often?


It would help Jyd if you could let me know what you have already tried. If you have been using Kratom already how much did you take and did you get any effect from that?

Some people need to take some time to acclimate to the alkaloids in Kratom as it can make you feel a bit nauseated BUT generally it is quite safe and that goes away with continued use.


The WORST things that can happen from using too much is that your head will be in the toilet bowl. Not very pleasant BUT at least it distracts you from pain and withdrawal - HA!

So if you could let us know what doses you have tried that were effective we can start from there .

AND it looks like NAN has found the Super Red Borneo from Canada Kratom Express so I would recommend that. Along with the Super Red Maeng Da you should have enough to at least help you get off the Tramadol as that is the short term goal.

The super strains have a slightly higher amount of mitragynine (pain relieving substance)and since you are seeking pain relief too it might be wise to start there.


You need to get your supply on hand and while waiting for that to arrive (they ship quickly), we can go over other details like schedules and doses.
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Thanks bev, What do you recommend as a daily routine? Eg. What dosage to start , how often?
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This? It was under simply Reds not super link.

www.canadakratomexpress.com/collections/shop/red-strains+borneo
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Thanks BoMalley!

Jerry, I summoned our Canadian Forum Nurse (retired). She and I have been through the experience you’re having, pain and all.

I’m hoping you will stop seeking alternate suggestions and save your energy by listening to good advice from one individual.

All of your questions pertain to AFTER TRAMADOL and you will be able to process information AFTER TRAMADOL that pertains to AFTER TRAMADOL - AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE WEAN OFF TRAMADOL.

Thanks BoMalley for visiting and meeting with Jyd (Jerry).

Hopefully you can now focus on getting through this part of your journey and not putting your energy into the future just yet. Should help minimize the confusion.
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Jyd wrote: I have been inundated with advice on over a dozen vendors and dozens of strains. I need one Canadian vendor and 1 or 2 strains to try for severe daily headache and back pain While I detox from tramadol. Thanks


www.canadakratomexpress.com/collections/best-selle...trains+super-strains

Not quite sure WHY they do not have any Super Red Borneo on the website ...you might contact them and try to find out but for now try the Super Red Maeng Da.

Make sure you get enough...even using 30 Gms a day you will need at least 300 gms to get through 10 days .

You might even need more than that...who knows until you try.
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Jyd wrote: Being new here I am on place name overload. I don’t know the difference between vendor names and strains. I need a Canadian vendor. With good prices , fast service with a recommended. High pain strain. Anything better than red Bali ? I originally bought from original harvest sample of green maeng ba, Bali 10x extract powder, and Borneo red vein Have only tried maeng ba. Suggestions?


Stay off the extract...it will push your tolerance up! You want the Kratom to work for you and increasing tolerance will just make it more confusing for you.


Because you are in pain, I would suggest to use reds ONLY for now. They offer the best pain relief. Until you are off the Tramadol altogether you will NOT be able to differentiate between the different effects of the various strains.

The more Tramadol you use the more opiate receptors you will have, and the higher the dose of Kratom you will need to get the same effect.


You said that withdrawal was your biggest fear. In order to manage that... Pick a red strain that works for you for pain management and use that exclusively until you are off the Tramadol. There is no need to keep trying different strains. It will only confuse you and your opiate receptors.

I prefer a super Red Borneo from Canada Kratom Express. They are a very good company and will complete your order quickly.

My recommendation would be to stop using the Tramadol and just replace it with Kratom...take as much as you need as often as you need it to keep withdrawal symptoms manageable. Once you have gone a full 24 hours without the Tramadol you will be on your way to a Tramadol free life.

I know it is scary....at least it was for me, but I was astounded at how well the Kratom managed withdrawal symptoms.

AND we are here to help you through.
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