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Stem and Leaves 1 week 2 days ago #46061

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Just got a new order from soflo. Very nice. Hope its ok to say. Approved vendor. I got a pkg of Stem and leaves. Was so Disappointed to open iff an was just powder. Thought i would get all this great stemmy plant material. How is this used and what is it. No real explanation. If uou guys could please help out and give some tips would be appreciated. Have loved this funny holiday thread. Really cheered me up. Thank you.
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Stem and Leaves 1 week 1 day ago #46062

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Hey Katrina !!

I have really enjoyed Soflo’s s&v.... pretty much you use it in place of powdered leaf in a mixed ratio ... 50:50 for example.

This is a great way to lower any tolerance and or to keep it in check .... there’s pain relief , energy and moodlift ... but from a diff alkaloid profile than the leaves ....

So... take it like you do the leaf ... I would think it’s ok to make tea out of ... I’ve only mixed it with juice and down the hatch !!!

Please share what you think about !!

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Stem and Leaves 1 week 1 day ago #46064

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It's Stem and Vein, though some left behind leaf material is unavoidable.

Grinding it is an art, and afaik it's supposed to allow for the S&V to get digested just so.
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Thank you both for the insight and responding. And thanks for the correction on the name. Stem and Vein, ok. Interesting. Got the whole topic heading wrong. LOL. Guess it shows Im not experienced.

Dont have my scale yet. A teaspoon? Or half. Appreciate you all so much. Happy December.
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S&V is a coarser grind, so it weighs (edited spelling) more. With all things Kratom, start low, as you can always add more and thus more accurately judge the effects.

If you're doing everything by eye then I guess substitute one fourth of your regular amount with S&V. Or substitute a bit less in place of that fourth, as the S&V is denser, even though it has less of the alkaloids that give Kratom the kick it's famous for. It has other alkaloids that are helpful, so don't think of S&V as just filler, like Hamburger Helper.

If taking only S&V instead of regular Kratom then I guess a half teaspoon won't incapacitate anyone who has no tolerance, but I'd start with less. For me, I'd try a quarter of a level teaspoon, which would probably be around a gram or a bit more than a gram.
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Thank you for the info on measurement, Babel 17. That is exactly what I needed. If I hadn't known it was heavier, might have used more than I needed. Want to keep it as low as I can and still get pain relief and mood lift. It's really helped with depression from all kinds of problems with the medical community. Im sure others share that. And I dont have anxiety from being in pain always thanks to Kratom.I needed help with mood, from all I have been through with health and react very strangely to antidepressants, so I won't take them.

I think these alkaloids do many more things. My skin and nails have been crazy dry and brittle. Since I started Kratom, that is starting to go away. Everyday its better and other things are easing up as well. Miracle plant. Thanks too, Something Sacred, for your experience of mixing 50/50. I think putting it in juice is how Im going to do powder. Does not lend itself to tea so much. Dont think I will use S&V today, but I will share my experince after I do it.

Accidently took a Maeng Da white from a company that did not specify color and I dont like the energy feel and Im major looking for pain relief so had to add a red. Want to wait till im clear to try S and V.

So grateful for all your help.:)
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Hi Katrina B! You are so right about the additional benefits from the leaf! Terms for next time; stem n vein is primarily recommended for weaning off kratom. Which is nothing like an opiate wean, but those using daily may have symptoms stem n vein quell. Next is the term for tea making kratom: crushed leaf

Those are two completely different things.

Many of us include stem n vein with the powder to enjoy the alkaloid profiles of both.

Crushed leaf is what to order for making hot tea with a strainer (also makes a dandy sun tea in the proper season).
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