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Pain after electrical injury 6 months 4 weeks ago #47108

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Some say that the “ super “ is a marketing gimmick, others that is just another way to distinguish a different batch ...
And also super is referred to the larger leaves with the idea of higher alkaloids...

If the leaves are mature and from a older tree , it should all be of good quality ... my thoughts anyways !
Maybe it falls somewhere in the middle ?

But I’ve also had “super strains” that weren’t as good as “regular “ ones .

I think the logistics are that everything plays into how good a variety is . From maturity , location, season , harvest/drying methods ... and personal chemistry!

I rarely take the same batch twice in a day , always rotating and mixing frequently. Helps avoid your receptors from becoming desensitized to one particular type. Different colors ,different batches ... different vendors all help ( with me anyways.. and many more folks) with keeping the effects good and beneficial.

Sounds like your taking a very reasonable dose amount , that’s good ... it’s always a good thing to stick to the lowest amount that gives you the desired benefits.

Tolerance is real though ... and sometimes you’ll need a bit more to get relief.. idk the issues with getting some from American vendors .. I believe that some ship to Canada... I’d contact a few vendors from the states to try out ..

Check with Benni Botanicals, Fused Flora , Insense/Goldleaf, Otie’s .... see if they can help .. if your wanting to try that ... I’d say that’s a good way to go ..

I think I’ve read that it’s not as easy to get potent kratom in Canada.. I could totally be wrong though ...

Bomalley is in Canada and can better suggest companies over there that are good ..

In the meantime , rotate and experiment with dose sizes .. and mix diff ones .. sometimes what’s not so good on its own is great combined ...

It’s all a lot of finding what works for you and sit of experimenting... but it’s worth it when you find consistency that brings relief ...

We’ve all been there , getting something that doesn’t do much , sometimes down the road what wasn’t working .. works great !! Kratom is tricky like that !! That’s why it’s good to have a sizable selection to rotate with !

Oh.. because kratom isn’t FDA approved , no vendor can sale it for human consumption... it’s a risk factor of liability for their business.. Feel free to DM me anytime .. I’m sure more folks will add to my thoughts !

Take care and I hope you find a solution that fits the need . We are here to help however we can Canadian (L)

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Pain after electrical injury 6 months 4 weeks ago #47107

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Indeed people are beautiful and compassionate around here

So it's fine to discuss openly with vendors even tho its says on their website "not for human consumption in any way shape or form"?

Im puzzled with my recent split kilo of super strains from canada kratom express. Its made from larger/older leaves and supposedly has 7-15% more alkaloids. I tried the 4 strains and i find it half as effective as the regular strains ihl had bought the first time from a different vendor, canada kratom store. I also noticed the grind of those super strains from CKE is not as fine as CKS. The taste is also half as bitter and all 4 have the same color. Maybe the coarser grind make it taste less and limits bioavailable? Im trying the repeated freeze-thaw method next to see if that helps.

I average 10gpd, 3 doses of 3.5g. A little less or more depends how i feel and i took only a couple days off. I could be mistaking but I dont feel that tolerance is responsible for decreased efficacy, i still have some from the first batch and it works fine. Also first purchase was 9 regular strains and second one was 4 super strains. I do rotate and mix strains.

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Pain after electrical injury 6 months 4 weeks ago #47097

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hey Canadian tw!

im glad you found us. and even more so kratom! we all battle some level of pain, that's why we are here doing what we do! first I recommend rotating companies and strains. you use the same 2 or 3 bags they will eventually become ineffective. if you get a couple or few strains from a couple vendors then you can even blend your own to see what works for you. even though reds typically are the best for pain, most are sedating. there are a couple more energetic reds. meang da and horns are typical. but they vary from vendor to vendor.

insense/ gold leaf has great 3 ounce special for 17 bucks you can get 3 times/ year. their red dragon, Sumatra, bali, thai, and dark red maeng da are awesome. their 'other herbals' are great concentrations and quality for some of the best prices around. akuamma and incarvilea are standard pain stacking herbs you can use with or without kratom. I need akuamma so much more! skullcap and corydalis are great for nighttime and pain relief to sleep. and they have health benefits too!

heres another monkey wrench. if you have reds, greens, golds, and whites you can custom blend according to need. all are helpful in some way. white is for mood lift and bountiful energy. some pain relief. greens are great for mood, energy, anxiety, and well being. typically good for pain and energy too. red is typically for relaxation and pain relief. gold are a more mellow red. most people it gives mellow energy and good pain relief. a red gold blend with a touch of green or white is my favorite typically.

that's some basics. please don't be afraid to ask specific questions. even email a company you are interested in. or most even pick up their phones! a few great approved vendors are re-leaf, inland, top extract, kratom krates, COB, PDO, kratom eye, natures cure, oties, all amazing. Bennis and fused flora are great priced competitors with amazing product too. and most have a code for us ILK members. so ask us or them! or if you use search you can usually find what you need. if you look at some past threads theres a few well skilled and informative enthusiasts here. look up posts from madmaxnightrider. very informative. fused flora has a lot of passion and information too. good luck to ya!
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Pain after electrical injury 6 months 4 weeks ago #47096

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Hey Canadian!! Nice to meet you :-h (L)

wow, that’s alot you’ve been contending with , I’m sorry your having these ailments , and I’m happy you’ve found some good relief with kratom ... it’s a special herb that’s helped me tremendously....

Hope to hear more from you , as you know already , some awesome folks around these parts !

Take care my friend!!

Brandon (L) (L) B-)

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Pain after electrical injury 6 months 4 weeks ago #47089

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Hi ILK!
Im 33 yo and been suffering for 3 years now from something called post-electric shock syndrome. As it implies i was struck by 120v on the side of my head for about 3 seconds. During the following months pain and debilitating insomnia developed followed by fatigue and sensory/dexterity loss, muscle twitching, rls, difficulty to concentrate, depression and anxiety. Ive gone through many doctors, MRI and other tests. I tried various medications which were all useless and brought nasty side effects. Then i gave cannabis a try which helped a lot with side effects of pills while i was trying medications out. It helps with pain also a little bit, especially cbd.

So after a long taper off of duloxetine i tried kratom which i already knew about (even tried it once out of curiosity like 15 years ago) but didn't consider it for a while because i thought it was only good for nociceptive pain. I was also considering opiates as a blunt, non sustainable tool for neuropathic pain. BTW i don't have experience with opiates other than a week on low dose codeine for a craked rib years ago. So i tried kratom and realised that i had misconceptions about it even tho i had read much about it. It seems to consistently bring down the pain 3 points on a 1 to 10 level. So typically im at 4-5 and it lowers the nerve pain to a 1-2, sometimes i get complete relief for a couple hours. But other times it only touches it. Same goes for the energy it brings me, some days it picks me up and other times its just like coffee. Im really greatful i have something for relief now. I have been taking kratom for 2 months.

I also want to say thank you to the ILK family as the info here helped me so much to get educated about how to keep this tool working for me. I turned my first kilo into tea and resin and realised something wasnt right, came here again and took time to read about sustainable pain management with kratom (thanks to Laurie, bomalley, madmax, ect) i now TW 3.5g instead of brewing 8g. Now i get twice the excersice as before and i enjoy it while i do instead of suffering. I will post again to the topics of canadian vendors and neuropathic pain. But for now i justed wanted to say a big warm hearted thank you!
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