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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #48014

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Recovering Heroin addict shows little self control, abuses Kratom, but doesn't die.

Her boyfriend went to rehab. The 31-year-old said he is feeling good about it, but is not out of the woods yet.


The horror! Recovering heroin addicts who manage to abuse Kratom weren't good bets to stay clean for long, imo. I wish him well, and I think he's better off now than when he was after stopping heroin use. Recovery is about more than just not using heroin.

And a recovering addict shouldn't respond to "try this" by trying that with no regard at all to what it is and how to use it.

No mention of where he was in his recovery, or if he was on a maintenance prescription of anything. But at least with Kratom, if misused, it's no needles, no overdosing, no dealing in illegal drugs, no wildly spiraling costs.

The first smoke shop I ever went to had kilos for 120 bucks (plus tax), so even at that price we're only talking an eight dollar a day habit at upwards of 60 grams a day. And apparently that was where he cut himself off and went to rehab, so for quite a while he was likely spending even less. I'm pretty sure that the average heroin addict will have developed a much more expensive problem before despairing and seeking help, or having it forced on them.

Eight bucks is what a working class bar will charge you for three beers at the end of your day. That's more than a lot of people can afford, but that's another story.
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #48013

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Littlebear3 wrote: Honestly, 60 grams a day. How does anyone even do that?
This was a little fluff piece with no real information and no substance. This persn is not even close to a journalist.
My biggest gripe about people whining about Kratom addiction is that they are consuming such gawd awful quantities. Seems like they are trying to replace heroin, so you can't even really consider them a kratom user. They are an all purpose substance abuser.


I agree. A totally negative propaganda hit job. I can believe he does 60gpd. Also, I believe he has Substance Abuse Disorder. Likely to become addicted to any substance he consumes. I think Susan Shapiro got slammed with hundreds, if not thousands, of emails and comments. Embarrassed to admit I reside in the same state as that hack.
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #48012

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Honestly, 60 grams a day. How does anyone even do that?
This was a little fluff piece with no real information and no substance. This persn is not even close to a journalist.
My biggest gripe about people whining about Kratom addiction is that they are consuming such gawd awful quantities. Seems like they are trying to replace heroin, so you can't even really consider them a kratom user. They are an all purpose substance abuser.
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47964

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I feel Ignorance is to blame , if one doesn’t have any accurate knowledge and does a news report, how can their be any credibility ?

Much love and respect , I’m sure she is at least second guessing her article to some degree...

Hope so :) (L)

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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47962

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C.O.B wrote: I responded with a nice email explaining the benefits and the way Kratom has helped me and countless others.:)


Thanks for your help in enlightening this journalist. If she had any integrity she’d retract and correct the story. But i doubt she will. I could be wrong, but it appeared to me that it was a negative propaganda hit piece about kratom that was intentionally meant to scare people away from kratom. To sway public opinion against our leaf. I wonder if there’s any anti-Kratom legislation being considered in her town in PA. It wouldn’t surprise me if some uninformed politicians could have encouraged the article. Maybe someone with a financial interest pushing the fear mongering.

It made me smile to see hundreds from the kratom community, in just the first few hours, speak out to set the record straight. There may be thousands by now on the WGAL Facebook page. I’d like to think the journalist, Susan Shapiro, would care enough about her credibility and reputation to make a correction. But maybe she was persuaded by executives with an agenda of their own. The doctor in the video that is supposedly tied to Penn Med doesn’t even work for the hospital. He’s a private practice holistic doctor and a closed minded misinformed holistic doctor at best. Maybe a fraud also with an agenda of his own.

Thanks again Christopher. The kratom community has to be relentless in pushing back against this FDA misinformation campaign.
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47953

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I responded with a nice email explaining the benefits and the way Kratom has helped me and countless others.:)
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47943

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Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: Thank you for being dedicated as well mberk69$!!!

Yeah .. it’s complete hogwash journalism... shame on her and those who do not know the truth and science behind kratom and the benefits this world has to gain from using the leaf in a responsible and therapeutic way ... in almost done with my letter to her .... I don’t do social media other than ILK and a couple other kratom forums , otherwise I’d be doing the whole Twitter and FB approach!

I appreciate you being here and your contributing to this important place we’re at surrounding this herb that helps so many ... 20 million folks utilizing kratom ?? Wow!!! That’s awesome! We know a good thing when we see and feel all the wellbeing it imparts to our lives !

Thx again =D> :-bd (L)


I’m certainly grateful to be part of the Kratom community. I’ve learned so much from so many good people with tons of knowledge about Kratom. I try to learn something new each day. And yes! I’ve read from several sources that the US Kratom community is between 12 million to 35 million. The majority of the estimates but the number at nearly 20 million. Pretty massive. I get what your saying about the social media. Twitter and Facebook give me a headache. I’ve recently abandoned Twitter. A bigger waste of time than FaceBook and FB isn’t much fun anymore either. Best Regards!
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 3 weeks ago #47941

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Thank you for being dedicated as well mberk69$!!!

Yeah .. it’s complete hogwash journalism... shame on her and those who do not know the truth and science behind kratom and the benefits this world has to gain from using the leaf in a responsible and therapeutic way ... in almost done with my letter to her .... I don’t do social media other than ILK and a couple other kratom forums , otherwise I’d be doing the whole Twitter and FB approach!

I appreciate you being here and your contributing to this important place we’re at surrounding this herb that helps so many ... 20 million folks utilizing kratom ?? Wow!!! That’s awesome! We know a good thing when we see and feel all the wellbeing it imparts to our lives !

Thx again =D> :-bd (L)

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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 4 weeks ago #47929

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Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: I had a long reply , but got timed out and lost it all!!

But in nutshell ... it’s beyond silly/ frustrating when these articles depicting kratom as a serious problem or issue .. is it coffees fault that some folks drink to much of ? Is it the candy bars fault that some eat to much and get cavities? It takes someone to be responsible and accountable for their own healthy relationship with whatever one puts into their bodies ... can’t blame kratom if someone abuses it and have bad effects . It’s not for everyone but there’s a beneficial route and a hindering one.

That’s solely rests on the shoulders of whom ever “chooses “ to utilize this spectacular herb .

When these articles are out out there and folks who know nothing about kratom read it , they immediately brand it as a negative substance that is detrimental to ones well being .. when I fact ( as we all here know ) it’s quite the opposite of harmful .

So , with the help of responsible vendors promoting and providing kratom in the accurate light of supplement and not cure all ... along with AKA ‘s efforts explaining the science and benefits to legislators... and with all of us helping spread the truth and exemplifying a healthy example of what Kratom’s amazing benefits are... we all can help clear the misconception of say big pharmaceutical and the opinions and experience of a few who’ve demonized this lovely benign herb because of abusing it or wanting to make money off of their own peddling poisons ...

Fret not , though it’s frustrating... we know better and we’ll continue to dispel the negative claims some make .

Thx for sharing , that’s why it’s so important to do what we can when we can to keep this leaf accessible and safe for the millions of us who have a quality of life because of it !!

Much respect to all of you !

We have an amazing community and commitment to each other .... what a threat to powers that be !!lol


I agree. It was a very irresponsible piece of journalism, if it can even be called journalism. It really came off as a hit piece against kratom with possibly an agenda. The claims were completely false and unproven. They framed it as some sort of safety concern. But I suspect it was far more about greed. The FDA’s misinformation campaign is heavily funded. Big Pharma stands to lose billions if the truth about kratom was more widely known. That’s why they try to sway public opinion against kratom. Thanks for your feedback and defending our leaf. The backlash that the author received for her article appears to be significant. It was encouraging to see folks from our nearly 20 million strong US kratom community turn out and set the record straight.
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The Kratom community should respond to this negative article. 7 months 4 weeks ago #47926

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CanadianTW wrote: Done!
Thank you MBerk!


Thanks for your feedback and defending our leaf. The backlash that the author received for her article appears to be significant.
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