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TOPIC: Need Input on Making Tea Stronger?

Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43828

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Thanks Laurie, I already have some Green Maeng Da on order which should be here soon thanks. I didn't know about the ILK return policy. I'll see about that even though I still feel bad asking. I gave this batch of red two weeks to make nice with my head and it hasn't happened yet. The reference to "ground sand" was for Don about the above mentioned podcast.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43826

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Thank's for the encouragement. After listening to that podcast I'm even more unsure of everything than I had been. I'll send my vendor an email, I included such with my newest order. Yeah, this nearly 500g of red-b is not doing me any good whatsoever (kind of a drag actually). I really am near quitting. Too bad too, I don't like anything else, and I'm not a "High on Lifer" - fergitit.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43823

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Ground sand??????????????
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43819

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I’m wondering if you still have that green you liked? I’m guessing not. All ILK vendors have a return policy but it is weird how the younger people are returning EVERY TIME the kratom doesn’t work for them. It’s definitely policy and you may as well return it. Especially because it doesn’t sound like it will work for you even if you were to tackle the tolerance issue (not fun).
I’m doing exactly that while undergoing Hirsuta Only Thursday ((HOT) and my tolerance is almost down to 1 gram! It probably will be by tomorrow. Good luck shopping for greens you might prefer.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43818

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Thank you Don, I'll check it out. So who is the guy in the video I posted above? I'm about two weeks into my second tub of Red Borneo (in succession) and all it does is make me extremely tired and moody, emotional etc. I am hoping it has everything to do with tolerance. That said, I'm expecting some green Maeng Da today or tomorrow and I sure as heck hope that will get me back on track. If not, I have a mind to stop Kratom altogether. Too bad because all was well until this last order of "red". I thought I might adjust but in the two weeks I have been taking it I have not and I am bummed to say the least. I am NOT faulting the vendor - let me make that perfectly clear. Has anyone ever tried to get a refund on their purchase? I would feel funny about doing that as I know there are no guarantees going in (that is Seinfeld's take on buying fruit at the market btw).
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43817

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That video is referencing a University of Florida podcast by Dr Chris McCurdy talking about kratom.

Here is the link.
www.ihmc.us/stemtalk/episode-61/

At the bottom of that page there are show notes that list the times of specific subjects within the podcast.

His talk starts at about minute 21. He talks about the strains and leaf first.

Then there is talk about the use by the native malaysians as a brewed then cooled drink, that is interesting. It starts at about minute 25.

I listened to it all and it is and excellent podcast. :-bd

Don :)
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43815

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Got it. Not to beat a dead horse (for lack of a better cliche) I found this on YouTube. It kinda confirms my original post "Heresy". Of course, one can find confirmation of one's beliefs on the internet of you look hard enough, but I wasn't looking for this. I was searching for the Chris Bell Film "A leaf of Faith. Link:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqHa7Kk7m0 That said, I am hoping the strain explanation if fact because I have some green on its way after batting zero with my red! Best!
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 1 week ago #43810

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The People in Indonesia Chew the Kratom Leaf for a few minutes & then Spit it out. They just use it Sublingually or have it Absorbed in the Mouth. They can do that because they have super fresh Kratom that is just picked right off of the Tree & is very potent.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 2 weeks ago #43779

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Well said and thank you for that. Of course there is plant material that is food for someone/something and then there is plant material that might not be, I don't know because I'm not a botanist. On the surface it seems to me that if no one had ever discovered its characteristic psychotropic compounds and their effects on human physiology the Kratom tree would maybe only be food for plant eating insects and possibly a species of a plant eating animal or two (again, I'm just guessing). "Listening to the body" as you say is always the best idea, a billions year old intelligence that knows what it is, what it's about and what it needs. I'm not here to give advice to anyone but it sounds like you might be a candidate for some kind of extract which as you know is frowned upon by purists. I wouldn't know, I've never actually tried any although I had considered extracts before I started brewing Kratom. I read your very interesting posts regarding the importance of alternating strains. You've obviously put a lot of thought into it. However, assigning days of the week/states of mind/strains is a bridge too far for me but then again I'm new at this. Thanks again to all ILKies.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 8 months 2 weeks ago #43749

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T4TWO I say do Whatever works best for your Body. You have to Listen to your Body & nobody Knows your Body like Yourself. If T&W gives you Cramps then TEA is your Best Way to Consume it. Your body is telling you that something is not right when you are getting the Cramps. I Personally would Drink the TEA all the Time if I could get it to be as Potent as T&W but I will have to Work on that. I think that TEA is the BEST Route to use Kratom because our Bodies were not Meant to be Consuming so Much Plant Material everyday. That's why I try to keep my Dosage as Low as Possible.
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