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TOPIC: Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndrome

Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndrome 8 months 4 days ago #44023

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CrayDumb wrote:

Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: For the record .... to everyone and no one !!

I take 2tsp 4-5 x a day.... a lot compared to many... butbim cool with that :) nothing to be ashamed by having viewpoints/ ideas/ personal experience.... we are all
( hopefully ) doing the best we can and learning everyday how to make things work better ... we are all guilty and all are innocent... at the same time ....

We all have some kinks to smooth out ..imo!!

I love this family/ community/ forum.... being open minded is a great thing to cultivate... helping others is a true medicine ...

Just my thoughts... no one needs to feel bad ... being mindful and keeping the truth ( even if only to yourself) is important... what works for one... not so for another

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i take 3 doses of 6g (1tbsp/3 teaspoons).

I think i prefer to wait longer between doses so the body has time to process without it, but then again, i'm taking much more at once. When i continue my taper, i want to keep prolonging the hours between. I'm not sure if it's better if i just take smaller and more frequent doses throughout the day.

Our bodies are perfectly unique to our own wiring,, I used to take 1 Tbs 4 x a day .. sometimes more ...
when I switched to 2 tsp 4-5 x a day ... it was a huge difference for my experience.... we will all respond (IME) similarly but differently ... thus the experiment goes on ....

I know from my own chemistry that taking less is best ... yet want is less to another may be more to another.... so it’s hard to gauge based on another’s experience.... yet the common thread that I’ve come to understand..... less is more ... despite the frequency

I want to point out that it’s so nice having you in the family!!! Thx for sharing and contributing (L)

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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndrome 8 months 4 days ago #44022

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madmaxnightrider wrote:

Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: For the record .... to everyone and no one !!

I take 2tsp 4-5 x a day.... a lot compared to many... butbim cool with that :) nothing to be ashamed by having viewpoints/ ideas/ personal experience.... we are all
( hopefully ) doing the best we can and learning everyday how to make things work better ... we are all guilty and all are innocent... at the same time ....

We all have some kinks to smooth out ..imo!!

I love this family/ community/ forum.... being open minded is a great thing to cultivate... helping others is a true medicine ...

Just my thoughts... no one needs to feel bad ... being mindful and keeping the truth ( even if only to yourself) is important... what works for one... not so for another

Much love and respect :x

Brandon


Brandon that just about what I take everyday. I don't take as high a dose as you each time but I take it like every 2.5 hours because Kratom doesn't last very long with me because I've been taking it for so long.

So your daily dose is not all that high. I would say it's in the mid range just like Laurie said. It's not in the High Range yet. Kratom will let you know if you are taking too much. You will get really Constipated, Get The Wobbles, Rebound Headaches, Dizziness etc. Then that's when you should lay off of it for a few days. Your dosing sounds just fine.

I know a lot of people take Kratom for the Positive Mood Lift that it Provides. That is what Attracted me to it for sure. Kratom does NOT cause a Euphoric High like real Opioids & that's what I Love about Kratom. If you treat Kratom with Respect Kratom will Treat you with Respect back & give you many Health Benefits. With anything there has to be Moderation.

I’m having no negative effects ... that I’m aware of .... only positives!!!!!!!! Thx Madmax, I feel like my intake is pretty reasonable as well, feels really validating you agree and see it that way ...the benefits I get are like 99-1 good to bad ..... I’m tremendously happy with the results

Hope your well my brother from another......

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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #44006

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Indeed, THANK YOU, Paul >:D
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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #44005

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Thank you Paul!!!! (L)

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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #44002

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Jyd: Laurie asked me to chime in here. I have read most of the studies on kratom that are published in PubMed. I've also followed the comments of the kratom community for the past 6 years and have written many articles about people's experiences. I wrote most of the articles in the blog on this Website.

Kratom is metabolised in the liver. From animal studies, giving Mitragynine (not dilute kratom) to poor lab-rats, cats, and dogs they determined that only pure mitragynine at absurdly high doses caused any liver damage (slight and not fatal).

There appear to be a very few people who probably should not take kratom at all -- there is one case study in Pubmed.gov about a guy who quickly developed jaundice. One or two cases out of 15 Million consumers is very good -- and this guy recovered fully when he stopped kratom.

Most kratom consumers, by far, have better liver numbers after starting kratom and remain in the normal range.
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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #43996

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WELCOME to the best kratom forum ever, Jyd!

This place is only a small token of an amazing community! Lots of experience and advice to be found. It takes a bit of reading to get things working well for your (any) issues, but nobody has found a better way around getting a bit of education on kratom. But many of us LOVE THE PROCESS of sharing and learning.

The SEARCH field on the website is really cool for looking up stuff while waiting for live peeps sometimes.

Just a couple of suggestions: getting hydrated is essential as mentioned above. This means buy some sort of electrolytes, not just drink more water.

Also, kratom stops up the BM plumbing for most and you’ll want to have a plan to manage the flow BEFOREHAND. Many of us have success with adding a magnesium citrate product of some kind.

So glad you found us! ASK ASK and Nan70 will be posting MUST READ links when possible. She has a lot going on, so use the SEARCH button and try keywords like “‘new” or “digestion” etc.

If you haven’t already, try watching “the Leaf of Faith” on Netflix for a great starting point learning the basics.

I don’t know the answer about where kratom is processed, and it may vary depending on ingestion (tea versus capsules versus powder).

Someone who knows that will undoubtedly post.
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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #43987

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Justbwelcomed you in another post... welcome again!!

My regimen is 2 tsp 4-5 x a day ... every 4 or so hrs ...
Chronic back and neck pain reduced by 70-80 %...
saved my life !!

You may need to take a higher starting dose because of your past opiates history .. but because it’s been a couple years... start small and add morebtill you find relief...
Example: take 1 tsp... wait 45-60 minuets... if not feeling relief... take another 1/2-1 tsp ...soon you’ll find the amount that works best for your needs and well as certain types and vendors ....

The least amount taken to feel relief is highly encouraged, less is more with kratom.. and tolerance sucks !!

Stay hydrated ...

Kratom can be a great ally ....

Hope you find is as helpful as I have ... major game changer ...

Just remember more isn’t more ... less is more ... it’s trippy but true !!

Brandon

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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndromez 8 months 4 days ago #43983

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Seem to be on some goal asi. New to kratom. I have polycystic kidney disease. Is kratom metabolized in kidney or liver? . I cannot have any drug metabolized in kidney like aspirin or NSAIDs. Live is ok like acetom8nphen. What is your daily routine 1 x per day? Every 4 hours? I tsp? With juice ? How do you take it? Any help totally new
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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndrome 8 months 4 days ago #43977

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CD, I don't know what the Nick Jr show is. Also, my reference to 10 minutes was that a 10 minute search can bring up a ton of intormation. Like most people, I am still researching and listening to different viewpoints.

I did get wobbles once. It was a bad day and I took a second two gram dose in the afternoon. I was feeling crappy and honestly can't say it was the Kratom. But it was uncomfortable. I think that sometimes we just get a bad day and shouldn't pile on some Kratom to fix it. Better to have a good dinner and go to bed early.

Life is hard. And sometimes I just do not believe we have really evolved to manage the current environent. It is just loaded with all kinds of stressors. Not to mention we are living so darn long. We now experience diseaases and aches and pains that most people didn't live long enough to have to deal with.

Most of us are doing the best we can, and in our younger years we may go to the dance with a substance just to get through the night. Maybe I am ageist, but I put a lot of trust in the words of people in my age group (baby boomers). Lord knows many of us used and abused our share of substances.

I truly appreciate people sharing their experiences and dosage. It is important to have a check point to monitor how we are doing. I love getting info on things like using step and vein to monitor tolerance and also using other herbs that have similar effects as Kratom. It gives me the option to substitute those herbs when i am wanting to boost one of the characteristics of Kratom without upping my Kratom use.
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Strain Rotation for Strain Stagnant Syndrome 8 months 5 days ago #43968

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Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: For the record .... to everyone and no one !!

I take 2tsp 4-5 x a day.... a lot compared to many... butbim cool with that :) nothing to be ashamed by having viewpoints/ ideas/ personal experience.... we are all
( hopefully ) doing the best we can and learning everyday how to make things work better ... we are all guilty and all are innocent... at the same time ....

We all have some kinks to smooth out ..imo!!

I love this family/ community/ forum.... being open minded is a great thing to cultivate... helping others is a true medicine ...

Just my thoughts... no one needs to feel bad ... being mindful and keeping the truth ( even if only to yourself) is important... what works for one... not so for another

Much love and respect :x

Brandon


Brandon that just about what I take everyday. I don't take as high a dose as you each time but I take it like every 2.5 hours because Kratom doesn't last very long with me because I've been taking it for so long.

So your daily dose is not all that high. I would say it's in the mid range just like Laurie said. It's not in the High Range yet. Kratom will let you know if you are taking too much. You will get really Constipated, Get The Wobbles, Rebound Headaches, Dizziness etc. Then that's when you should lay off of it for a few days. Your dosing sounds just fine.

I know a lot of people take Kratom for the Positive Mood Lift that it Provides. That is what Attracted me to it for sure. Kratom does NOT cause a Euphoric High like real Opioids & that's what I Love about Kratom. If you treat Kratom with Respect Kratom will Treat you with Respect back & give you many Health Benefits. With anything there has to be Moderation.
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