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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 1 day ago #44145

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I hope I did not miss it if you did detail OTHER treatments you have tried for headaches...not just meds.

Chiropractic might be helpful...especially National Upper Cervical chiropractic techniques.

Look up NUCCA to get some videos and explanations of this gentle yet very effective treatment.

There are other manual therapies as well so I just thought I would inquire as to whether or not you have tried anything.
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 3 days ago #44032

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Nan,
Excellent video.
I had been lax in my taking of the turmeric daily and started back up a couple of days ago.
Interesting to know now that it may be helping my BPD meds (lamictal and pristiq) work better. :-?
I'm actually almost out of the turmeric I got from Insense. I need to order more.

I can relate to the Dr's comments about the trial and error of the meds. One med they gave me had me consider suicide the 2nd day I was taking it. :sick:

Jerry,
Just a note about turmeric. Be careful it stains like crazy! I've ruined a couple of shirts when capping it or mixing it with my kratom dose. :ohmy:

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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #44017

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here's a study about curcumin (turmeric) helping reduction of tolerance
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352596/

also this weekend I watched this Dr. mentioned briefly towards the end of the interview he felt turmeric helped tolerance issues with his anti depressants
www.fox29.com/video/607574
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #44016

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Kratom dosing can be effected by current and past prescription pain med use and also individual body chemistry. Funny I just had a conversation with my husband's niece who is a pharmacist talking about fast metabolizers(this was an anti depressant convo for my mom) you hardly ever sit in a doctors office complain about the medicines and they factor this scenario in. (getting off topic)

Just to show how kratom works for individuals. I am a control my own pain management person/ I do the physical therapy, aggressive anti inflammatory diet, I have limited experience with Tramadol I could not handle the next day anxiety it caused me. And limited oxy use because it never allowed function. I did a lot of spinal cortisone injections instead(after doing tons of them I do not recommended them to treat anything chronic)
I was lucky and had success first dose of kratom. I dose twice a day weekdays, Only night dose on weekends. Exception if break through pain is bad. This is me I allow a certain amount of pain, nobody has to chose that. Quality of life is the goal of pain management, whatever you need to achieve this, do.

I dose Green strains for my work day 1.7 grams. I use a scale to dose
I dose Red Strains 2.4 grams at night all with turmeric and black pepper and green tea chaser.
I use a 4 or 5 different strain rotation from about 3 to 4 different vendors.
This might not make sense now but it will if continue the kratom journey. I am considered a low doser. Some people need 3 grams or more. Less is best but we need to find our own sweet spot. 3 grams is a reasonable dose for many. When you get up to 8 grams its people who are managing opioid withdrawals.

My first kratom try was capsules but the expense led me to powder I have high tolerance for bitter sludge so I only mix it in water.

If you are tapering off Tramadol. Please continue the taper and do not mix Kratom and Tramadol.
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #44015

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Everyone is unique and it’s not really possible to duplicate someone else and expect success.

Start with samples of at least green and red and 2 grams or 3/4 tsp. Wait 40 minutes and see if you feel better at all. You won’t feel an obvious high suddenly. If you feel like cleaning the dishes you left on the counter or something simple like that, it’s helping.

Do you have any samples? We can assist with that.

Thanks for sharing your history so we can be of more help to you in the hard part of your journey.
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #44012

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Thanks. What is your dosage for the last 2 years. How do you take it. How often
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Thanks to all of the above for warm welcome, suggestions and advice. I am hoping to use kratom to reduce my daily headaches to below myy 10. while weaning myself off the remaining dose off
I tramadol. I will follow up on readings suggested. Really pleased to hear it is not processed in the kidneys. Thanks. Jerry
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #44007

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Welcome to the forum
Seeking natural alternatives, forced taper, prescription medications did not work or tired of the side effects, or wanting to be able to take control of your own pain management. A few reasons we are here taking kratom.
This forum can guide you to have success with kratom. We support each other with pain management and offer suggestions in botanical alternatives, diet, exercise, anything it takes to help.
Here are a few basic links to read over at your own pace.

The basics
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/kratom-discussion/5686-k...-oldies#.XYg12ihKiUn

A recent newbie member's guide-
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/introduce-yourself/8405-...journey#.XYgw2ChKiUk

Its a lot of information please ask any question you need.

My quick tip is taking turmeric with each kratom dose, I feel it helps reduce tolerance. My dose has stayed the same for 2 years. I take kratom to manage spinal arthritis, I benefit the most from Kratom's anti inflammatory alkaloids. Stress reduction is plus.
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #43998

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hey jerry! im so glad that you found us. and kratom. I just hope we can help you as much as the kratom! what type did you get? and if you don't mind us asking from where? some vendors generally have better quality that's why I ask.

your 'average' kratom is roughly 2 grams for a flat bakers teaspoon. I would recommend that as a starter dose. if you don't feel better in about an hour take a little more ( 1/4 teaspoon at a time ) till you find what works for you as your 'sweet spot' starter dose. which is just a general guide. whites I typically take a little more than reds lets just say. but im getting ahead of myself...it does taste nasty but its easy to mask. I even use essential oils. let it sit 5+ minutes ( even overnight in a glass bottle ) it helps pull out the active compounds.

I recommend you get a scale. COB( christophers organic botanicals ) even has a cool spoon that makes it easy to measure. taking the leaf isn't as easy as taking a pill. its a bit more like trying to master a symphony over an instrument.

thank you for sharing your story. you have done so far own your own already. this is a piece of cake. you got this! most of us are on this journey due to chronic pain. I have worked 60+ hour work weeks for weeks now. there is no way I could do it without the leaf and other herbals and supplements. please look into akuamma, incarviella senesis,( sp ) corydalis, and skullcap. all I recommend from in sense/ gold leaf botanicals. amazing selection, great kratom and herbals as well.

don is the headache banishing bonsai master.. but I recommend green veins, gold and red. whites can make you a bit strung and don't help as much for pain. typically. I do use them for blending if I know im gonna have a especially long day.

I certainly hope this helps. don't be afraid to ask very specific questions. a word of advice is make sure you stay hydrated with electrolytes or mineral supplements and since you are consuming leaf, make sure pluming stays flowing.
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Oxycontin and kratom 8 months 4 days ago #43993

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Welcome Jerry, :-h
Wow, that IS quite a journey you've been through.
I can't imagine detoxing for that long. I would lose what little mind I have left.:silly:

In February of this year I went looking for a pain med after having a headache 90% of every month for the last 2 years. My neurologist tried every drug he new of and every new shot that came out. Nothing worked except Zomig but I could only get 6 a month of those so they were saved for the level 10 headaches. Sometimes it took 2 zomig to make those go away.:(

We were just getting ready to try botox shots in my skull when I found kratom, and the ILK family here, while looking for a pain med for my wife. :cheer:

At the moment What works best for my headaches is the Green Riau I got from Insense. 1.5g in the morning at 5am followed by 1g at noon keeps the headaches to no more than a 2 and the majority of the time takes them completely away. Kratom is a miracle to me! :cheer:
No prescription ever came close to it.

I hope you have as much success as I have had with kratom getting rid of headaches and dramatically reducing other pains. :-bd

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