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MIT45 - I think I'm in trouble. 9 months 3 weeks ago #44044

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Welcome to the best kratom forum ever, Kraworried!

I’m so sorry to hear about your predicament.

I haven’t got the experience with that sort of product to offer as help.

I’m also unfamiliar with what is in MIT45. I don’t remember seeing that part in the movie. I’m a recovering oxy addict and recovering alcoholic and I do try to warn people about using anything besides leaf product because concentrated forms of the leaf are NOT the same as taking leaf only smaller, a common misconception.

There’s no doubt that you gotta get out of this the same way you got in. Gradually tapering down. Cold turkey is not recommended and clonodine is a SERIOUS blood pressure dropping medication that can probably be harmful if not prescribed for you for this purpose.

I would recommend you make a plan to use less, get stable, then use less, get stable, over time. No shortcuts will be possible without a detox rehabilitation center to get you there medically.

Get your wife involved in supervising your stash and your reduction plan. Have her keep a log to refer to and hopefully you can get weaned down enough to use the leaf product to complete your journey back.

Sorry to hear about this. I’m sure you are not the first person this has happened with because the mainstream media has not been allowing many resources to provide honest and ethical information due to agendas with who makes what. Instead we have a lot of censorship and misinformation and many people try it and ask questions later. Your questions are just SO MUCH LATER. But at least you have found this group!
I’m sure you’ll get some support and advice from others here and we are compassionate and sympathetic to your situation - hope that helps a little.

Definitely discontinue the see-saw plan and start a real plan of reducing your intake with accountability and oversight in the hands of someone you love and trust would not harm you.

Keep posting as you go and we can definitely offer support!
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MIT45 - I think I'm in trouble. 9 months 3 weeks ago #44043

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I never heard of of it, It was not mentioned in Leaf of Faith. YouTube was supposed to remove these videos and they have been but that's another story.
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MIT45 is an extract shot. Its 45% Mitragynine tincture.

I would never recommend an extract.
Some forum member here occasionally take an extract. I will allow others with more knowledge to post.

Skipping to the main concern you need to start a taper. This can be done. This is a little out of my personal experience I just wanted to touch base and let you know hold on a little and feedback will come soon. I am going to search to see if I can find relevant information for you. I will post the link if successful.
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MIT45 - I think I'm in trouble. 9 months 3 weeks ago #44040

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I need some serious advice please. I tried Kratom for the 1st time about 10 weeks ago. I have only ever taken one preparation of it: MIT45. I have never seen the leaf or powder form. I went on YouTube after watching a NetFlix documentary and most were suggesting the extract and touted the brand MIT45 as the best (in terms of manufacturing quality). So that's what I got. I consumed about 1/3 the first time and felt absolutely nothing from it. I was actually kind of annoyed because of all the hype and it was about 20 bucks. A few days later I tried it again but this time took almost a whole bottle and was really surprised how good of a response I got. So I started doing about 1 bottle a day, always once a day...then 2...then 3...then 4. So for the past 8 weeks or so I have been drinking about 3 bottles of MIT45 a day. I stopped about 2 weeks ago for 4 days and didn't notice any withdrawal so I figured I was below the threshold of physiological dependance. I stopped for a few days last week after doing a single shot Monday morning. By Wednesday I was in a world of hell. And I mean rock-solid, hard-core, kill-me-now withdrawal.

Dear friends, I know nothing about Kratom. But I know what opioid withdrawal is. I had to go to a 2 day wedding so I HAD to take some to function. I am in a very bad situation. The fear is real and that can be the worst part. I am really hoping someone here can calm my fear. What the hell should I do? Can you taper off of Kratom? Tapering is awful with any opioid but maybe Kratom is a little bit gentler and kinder than say oxycodone? I can tell you that I got ZERO sleep for 3 days before I finally took some Kratom. I tried clonidine and a benzo and nothing was going to break the withdrawal I felt.

Today I took 1.25 bottles of MIT45. My wife is like super pissed at me, but she's 100% supportive...she just want's me to not be addicted. I don't want to be addicted. If I may write plainly...just how fucked am I?

I am going to taper. No way I can endure withdrawal that bad. And no way am I going to take something like Suboxone to get off of Kratom...that just feels way wrong.

Is Kratom a bit more forgiving when you taper? What the hell is in a MIT45 shot anyway? It feels like I am literally poisoning myself with that dark oil...can I or should I switch to making tea or capsules? I am toxic with this MIT45 stuff.

My only idea right now is to take 1/2 a bottle for a few days and keep reducing over time. But is Kratom a totally different actor than pharmaceutical grade opioids? Is the taper off of Kratom a totally different paradigm than would apply to opioids?

I can't believe that I am spending 100 dollars <em>a day</em> on something I buy at a gas station. Crazy right? I want off. I over did it. I know I will have to pay a price. But I can not function. I am literally unable to go out of the house because I feel so terrible. Clearly I am toxic with this stuff. I think the first thing is to find a dose small enough that I don't get sick or hungover (which is what I think is happening) but large enough to keep me out of withdrawal and then slowly reduce the dose from there.

There has to be other's out there that are buying MIT45 by the case and poring 4 or 5 bottles into their morning smoothie...or am I the only idiot in the world?

Thanks to anyone that might help me formulate a way off of this stuff. A plan is hope, and hope is everything.
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