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TOPIC: So Help me GERD!

So Help me GERD! 7 months 1 week ago #44885

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T4TWO wrote: CBD doesn't work for me. Smoked bud, tried oil and candy and nothing happens. Done.


metoo!

NADA
ZIP
NUTHIN'

So much for the therapeutic effects of cannabis.

Very disappointing!
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 1 week ago #44875

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CBD doesn't work for me. Smoked bud, tried oil and candy and nothing happens. Done.
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 1 week ago #44872

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I just got some CBD isolate in powder form to toss/wash with kratom.

Coincidentally I am experiencing pretty drastic GERD!

I’m going to try adding it to oil based products. I don’t have the issue with CBD oil. I have issue with the price only. LOL

Try skipping your CBD and see if you feel better?

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So Help me GERD! 7 months 1 week ago #44729

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Ha. Good one. I cut out a few things and am feeling a little better. Can't seem to totally escape symptoms however. That is a pipe-dream I'm afraid. :(
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44717

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T4TWO wrote: Driving home from the market this afternoon I had a frightening thought - I wonder if my Kratom "tea" relaxes the LES as does other stimulants. That would be a sad situation. :pinch:


Very good question.

I have been taking Kratom for over 3 years and have not noticed anything with escalating GERD symptoms so I think not, BUT my LES is strong and acid reflux has never been a problem for me.

Perhaps someone with a weakened LES might find that it exacerbates GERD?

BTW I love how we term the reflux as "acid reflux" when in fact it is partially digested food that comes up.

Food reflux would be a more fitting term.
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44604

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Driving home from the market this afternoon I had a frightening thought - I wonder if my Kratom "tea" relaxes the LES as does other stimulants. That would be a sad situation. :pinch:
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44602

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This is excellent, make a heck-of-a-lotta sense. Thank you very much. More later, I'll "digest" the post! >:D
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44596

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T4TWO wrote: Thank you. Are you referring to something called pro-biotics? I've heard of those products but have never partaken. Yes, it has occurred to me that supressing acid production is counter-productive. I'm currently taking a prescribed PPI, an otc "acid-reducer", chewable antacids as needed, Pepto-"Dismal" and baking soda in water (which really works the best - all the while neutralizing and diluting acids that are there to break down foods for further processing and absorption. It gets particularly intense after dinner. I have contacted my PCP for an exam that will assess any damage and try to get to the bottom of it. <strong>I suspect a weak LES (lower esophagal sphincter)</strong> the valve that keeps digestion from backing up into the esophagus. If left untreated irreparable damage can result. Right now all I want to do is assess the degree of damage done and then go from there. Thanks for your suggestions.



NO - probiotics are bacteria (the really really good kind) and they would be recommended too, but digestive enzymes are enzymeas (usually enzymes names end with "ase")

LIPase = enzyme for digesting fat
PROTEase = ezyme for digwstin proteins etc.

Enzymes and probiotics are not the same thing.
naturalfactors.com/articles/are-digestive-enzymes-the-same-as-probiotics/

YES... the LES is probably a problem with most reflux. Coffee, nicotine and many other food relax that sphincter and make the reflux worse.

Because reflux tastes acidic the usual course of treatment is to reduce acid. BUT incomplete digestion is probably the culprit. The longer foods sit in the stomach the more likey it is to "backwash" up through the LES.

You can also purchase digestive enzymes with charcoal in them and they can be very effective for gastric reflux.

Baking soda or peptobismol will neutralize the acid and result in incomplete digestion. This might give immediate relief but just makes the long term problem of incomplete digestion worse.

1.Eliminate chemicals that weaken the LES - nicotine, coffee, chocolate,any kind of cola or soda are the usual culprits.

2.Restore the natural balance of bacteria - probiotics

3. use supplemental enzymes with EVERY meal to aide with proper digestion.
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44584

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Thank you. Are you referring to something called pro-biotics? I've heard of those products but have never partaken. Yes, it has occurred to me that supressing acid production is counter-productive. I'm currently taking a prescribed PPI, an otc "acid-reducer", chewable antacids as needed, Pepto-"Dismal" and baking soda in water (which really works the best - all the while neutralizing and diluting acids that are there to break down foods for further processing and absorption. It gets particularly intense after dinner. I have contacted my PCP for an exam that will assess any damage and try to get to the bottom of it. I suspect a weak LES (lower esophagal sphincter) the valve that keeps digestion from backing up into the esophagus. If left untreated irreparable damage can result. Right now all I want to do is assess the degree of damage done and then go from there. Thanks for your suggestions.
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So Help me GERD! 7 months 2 weeks ago #44580

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have you ever taken digestive enzymes? They work rather well for helping to digest food.
They are just enzyme for digesting protein, fat and carbs.

Acid is absolutely necessary for proper digestion of specific nutrients. The normal pH of the stomach should be about 2 which is very acidic.
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