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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 10 months 3 weeks ago #46115

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Thanks, Dadwrench, for the awesome and helpful comments!
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 10 months 4 weeks ago #45879

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Still trips me out how sentences can be doubled LOL

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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 10 months 4 weeks ago #45878

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Right back at you Brother Don! Happy holidays… So it’s a little bit of a conflicting one…I still enjoy my family time and give big thanks to all the sacrifices made, intended or not! Brother Robbie, much love and respect! Hope you’re feeling fit as a fiddle…(L) Brother Robbie, much love and respect! Hope you’re feeling fit as a fiddle…(L)

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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 10 months 4 weeks ago #45875

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Hey brother Robie. :-h rezo para que estés bien

Thank you for prompting this addled brain to wish the family a Happy Thanksgiving.

I pray that all my ILK family will have a very blessed and Happy Thanksgiving. >:D :x

Don
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 6 hours ago #45852

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Robie !!! Mi amigo !! Qua pasa!! Sorry , my lady speaks fluent Spanish... not me :whistle:

You are spot on in the reason to be weary of such things ..
Hard to tell a friend from a foe sometimes... it’s the fox dressed in grandmas clothes...!!! When folks take a perfectly functional plant and bring it to the laboratory to select only the few alkaloids ( For profit) ..they are missing the point by a thousand miles .... they can’t extract its spirit , the spirit of kratom .... aka “ Synergistic alks ” ... and. Recombine them like Mother Nature did and does ..and as we mostly are aware of ... it’s the combination of ALL THE ALKALOIDS that make kratom such a beautiful herb that helps so much ....

Babel ... yes indeed ... what a bunch of wankers always trodding over the beautiful grassy patch trying to make it greener but actually just wind up hurting it, with yellow and brown spots ..lol... it’s the best analogy I can come up with at the moment !!!! Bigger faster stronger .... why mess up a perfectly good thing !! Silly I tell you , just plain silly !!

You guys are great ... be good my friends ,

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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 7 hours ago #45844

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I wondered how Roger Ebert could have seen those documentaries since he has been gone for quite some time and he was SO ILL before that.

EDIT: never mind. Thanks for the link to the review of the first film.

That’s so true about the alkaloids ALL being what makes kratom so widely helpful, in my opinion.
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 8 hours ago #45841

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Hello Babel. Wow! You're right. I didn't even realize it. Total Freudian slip of the finger. I just realized it after you mentioned it.

Be blessed,

Robie
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 8 hours ago #45840

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And I agree with your premise. Kratom is loaded with alkaloids, and synthesizing just the main two, or just the main one for pain reduction, should be reserved only for those in a real need.

Coffee has more than just caffeine, same thing with regular tea. And they're both far less complex than Kratom.
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 8 hours ago #45839

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bigger, faster and stronger


I saw what you did there, lol. :)

The director of A Leaf of Faith also directed Bigger, Stronger, Faster. I had no idea Roger Ebert liked it so much, until just a minute ago.

www.rogerebert.com/reviews/bigger-stronger-faster-2008
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Scientific research of kratom and its potential support of a ban 11 months 11 hours ago #45826

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Good morning all! It's nice to have a little energy and see some friends and cobble together a reply. Laurie? You are looking lovely as ever. And Little Brother and Don? Muy, muy guapo y noble! And hello to you folks whom I haven't had the pleasure of meeting.

I truly hate to sound negative but we are in the "golden" days of Kratom. Actually we crossed that threshold of "golden" days when Kratom distributers started selling capsules with high percentages of Mitragynine. As an example: when chemists took raw opium and turned it into heroin and morphine. As for McCurdy? I was dubious when I saw him on "Leaf of Faith" talking about his passion to bring forth a new drug for the world and complaining he could not get patents for his "studies". I'm thinking logically. The only reason I can imagine he would complain about needing patents in a study is if he already isolated something he could apply a patent to. And if a chemist, especially a pharmaceutical chemist, has patents I think the logical buyers of a patent would ultimately be big pharma. His passion came across to me, personally, as being a bit too much self deprecating with borderline fanaticism. I've always been leary of fanaticism. My worry is that what is being done to Kratom is the exact same thing which was done to raw Opium. But much faster. And I am aware that comparing Kratom and raw opium is comparing apples to oranges. Isolating the compounds in Kratom will ultimately lead to more governmental oversight and control's. Kratom is fine as it is. I like the model that Christphers Botanicals use. It's the same model applied to Medical Cannabis. And that is important. That's all that should be done with Kratom. I think it's just fine the way it is. I would be sad indeed to see this leaf manipulated for obscene profits to those who throw a patent on the compounds. And the consumer's not being able to have access to the powdered form of the leaf. A good thing could be forever lost in the name of "science". My hope is that Kratom is treated much like the Medical Cannabis model. Use that model as a guideline for Kratom. The truth IS getting told about Kratom. My worry is modern medicine is going to come up with a compound that will put us back to square one in regards to the opioid addiction crises.

I'll never fully understand human nature's drive for bigger, faster and stronger when applied to how any given substance effects human receptors in the brain. And by proxy to a lesser extent the rest of the human body. People have taken cannabis and turned it into a very potent plant throwing landrace cannabis to the side. I personally do not enjoy bigger, faster and stronger when it come to cannabis. I miss the "golden" days of good landrace cannabis. I would sure hate to see this happen to Kratom. I personally think it's a miracle leaf. And taking all the problems the whole human race on every part of the earth concerning drug abuse? It appears to me that Kratom is a Godsend at this moment in time.

That's just my 2 cents worth. I hope everyone is doing well? If I don't bump into you all, my good friends here on the ILK, before Thanksgiving I hope everyone has a wonderful Holiday and be safe out there.

In all things be blessed,

Robie
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