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Alcohol Ruined The Good Effects of Kratom For Me (Or Was it My Diet?) 7 months 3 days ago #46934

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Personally, I had severe stomach pain when I tried to drink and take kratom on the same day some odd years ago. I am so glad to be able to experience the true medicinal effects of kratom now without all that extra poison in my system. Been 3 years alcohol free. I was using the booze for pain too! Just isn't necessary or worth it anymore.

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Alcohol Ruined The Good Effects of Kratom For Me (Or Was it My Diet?) 7 months 3 weeks ago #46299

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Yes, kratom is helping your body heal. Mixing kratom with alcohol (even from last night) can be very unwise.

I would not rush to add agmatine to your lifestyle yet. Dietary supplements like regular vitamins and WALKS in fresh air will help. I drank for 30 plus years and still get better nails, hair, overall health from long term quitting. I am also in a 12 step program but I am only saying it because it also helps me to change my thinking and why I’m taking ANYTHING.

Congratulations on your continued improvement!
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Alcohol Ruined The Good Effects of Kratom For Me (Or Was it My Diet?) 7 months 3 weeks ago #46236

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I vote for alcohol. When you get sober, it takes a long time for alcohol to really be done with you. Recovered alcoholics can attest to the fact that it is not unusual to have post acute withdrawal symptoms as many as six months after quiting. Sadly, alcoholics can relapse even years after they quit. Once you cross the line to addiction of alcohol, it takes a really long time to fully heal from it.
At a month, you are still early in the recovery process. Alcohol is sneaky like that. Stick to it.
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Alcohol Ruined The Good Effects of Kratom For Me (Or Was it My Diet?) 7 months 4 weeks ago #46209

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That’s some really great news my friend!!
Good in Every sense of the word ... wow!!!
It makes sense to me that alcohol was def getting in the way of kratom .. as far as diet goes ... idk but it may have contributed to getting better results as well..

I’m so happy for you and stoked you shared this with us =D> B-) (L)

I say keep taking good care of yourself and you’ll keep on getting stellar results !!! Very good form brother (L)

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Alcohol Ruined The Good Effects of Kratom For Me (Or Was it My Diet?) 7 months 4 weeks ago #46208

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I recently quit drinking as a nightly ritual and been sober for a month now. Problem was I was not a 1-2 drink kind of man, but I drank to get a strong buzz. Not overly drunk, but enough to be fairly buzzed and sometimes wasted. Anyway, one of the best benefits I noticed when I quit (there are many) is kratom starting working for me again in a positive way. I can't explain it but kratom now works wonderfully and I no longer get the trembles, anxiety and moodiness I was starting to get from kratom even at the same dose 2-3g about 3-times daily. I was ready to toss out all my kratom or donate it to someone here in need. But kratom now gives me all the benefits I enjoyed from this plant... better mood, stops anxiety, clean energy, etc.

I can't explain what happened so I'm curious if anybody else has an explanation? Before this change a 2g dose did literally nothing. And if I upped the dose I'd get anxiety, trembles, moodiness, etc. I wish I could narrow down why suddenly kratom works so much better... almost like the honeymoon faze. I made a few changes in my life so not sure which change made the kratom work great again. And it's not that it just works again. But rather, I no longer get negative effects despite taking the same dose as always.

The best explanation I came up with is my liver was working too hard to process the alcohol due to excess and therefore, was unable to breakdown the kratom properly. Thus, I would get either no effects, or negative effect when I dosed. Even though I never drank booze before I dosed, I'm certain because of my heavy drinking the night before it had a negative effect on my kratom dose the next day as my liver was working overtime to process the alcohol.

I also noticed I can now drink coffee with my dose of kratom. I could never do that prior to my sobriety because it would cause some serious anxiety if I had any amount of caffeine with my dose or within an hour of my dose (before or after). Kratom and caffeine was a bad mix for me and would literally have my hands shaking like a leaf and extremely edgy. Now the two go absolutely wonderful together.

The only other change I made over the last 2 weeks is changed my diet to low carbs (Keto). But I've done that diet many times over the years and frankly, it didn't seem to help with my kratom issues giving me negative effects. BTW to get my booze fix in the past (during keto) I would stupidly drink vodka and whisky because they have no carbs. Of course, I realize now it ruins the keto benefits.

Now that my sobriety has brought back all the good effects of kratom I plan to try agmatine again to help lower tolerance so I can get back down to 3-4 daily or less. That's the plan anyway. When I tried agmatine before it didn't do anything but give me a bad hangover after my regular night of drinking. As you know, agmatine and booze does not mix because it makes 1 drink feel like 2 or more. So I stopped taking agmatine so I can continue my drinking. Not anymore. I'll give agmatine another try and maybe tumeric, black seed oil, CBD, etc.

Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to share this story to possibly to help others that are moderate to heavy drinkers and not getting benefits from Kratom.
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