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thank you, and i did try having VERY LITTLE of mitra's white kratom today (i'm talking 3/4 of a teaspoon or 2.25g) and mixed in with 1/2 tbsp or 3g of some good green. This would = ~5.25g which is still under my regular dose. I didn't feel much kratom effects and "crashed" early about 2 hours in, and had a very very light headache and just a general sense of not feeling well. I just think it's funny, because i barely coated my table spoon scooper with the white kratom and still felt that nasty crash which i can definitely attribute to the white kratom because it was the same feeling i expressed earlier, just much lighter since my dosage was lighter.
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In all my experience, if I've felt bad from kratom (with those same effects you describe), it's usually because I'm taking too much. I suspect even with your reg dose at 6g and taking 3g of mitraman, he has some great stuff, you might be taking too much. I'd recommend reducing your dose further and see.
1/10 strains is a tough one, I don't know what to tell you there.
About 1/50 ones i'll try i'll get a headache, no matter if it's 1g or 3g (my typical dose). I can't explain the reason, it's just a headache batch for me. And even then, some of those 1/50 are spectacularly reviewed batches by others, I know this is just my body chemistry.
I think the weaker ones will do fine for you to steer off wd, especially as you taper. If a batch is bad to me, it's usually just bad and will continue to be. I might come back to it later to see, but over 80% it will not work for me in the future if it didn't work today and I try ALOT of kratom. However, I will say that I have mixed two "bad" batches for me that ends of being straight fire. I think the mix of spectrum of alkaloids across the two batches has a huge impact. I do find if I have a lot of reds in succession and don't have a white for awhile, when I come back to it, it's perceived effects will be more.
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I can only tell you my experience started with high doses many vendors and and tapering etc.... I actually have heard on here and other forum of long time users not taking breaks and everything just seems to come back like phases and that’s me and I also after 4 years on 2g per dose for quite some time and I have brief phases where things aren’t working great but changing vendors and going back to my stash and all of a sudden things that weren’t working are great now.... I don’t have good luck with whites but I have phases of green working best then red or gold etc so I switch up... cats claw and akuamma are great too...
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I just want to say that this is not a review and I know that everyones body is different. I had a bit of a kratom tolerance that was ~25-35gpd while this all happened.
I bought from mitra man. His greens were great, some of his reds were great, but his whites would make me feel pretty bad. I can't even remember how i'd feel, but it was almost like i was experiencing the effects of taking TOO MUCH kratom (nausea, slight jitters maybe). With my tolerance, i didn't think that would happen with my usual 6g dose. Now i exclusively took green and reds for a while now, and thought that maybe my tolerance for whites were just that low. So i readjusted and took 3g and STILL felt it! albeit to a lesser extent. When i first started taking kratom, that is even lower than my first dose EVER!! and i still felt bad which was weird to me. so either my body just doesnt like his whites, or it's so strong that i'm STILL taking too much because i only had reds and greens for a long time? (note: i've tried this with 4 of his white strains and it happened with all of them. whites used to be my favorite and now i can't even take them). I also felt nothing off of his golds, but also maybe could attribute that to my high tolerance.
I also bough a 10 way split kilo from releaf LLC. i had high hopes about the quality, but only 1/10 of the strains even worked MILDLY. so mildly that i had to mix it with stronger strains in the future. I see people talking about his quality consistently and got confused, because even though everyones body is different, you'd think i'd get at least 1 quality strain out of 10 different ones. Then again, i don't know if i should attribute this to my high tolerance!! i'm so confused, so i just stuck with the green and reds from mitra that worked for me.
Now, i got to that point where I was just feeling like crap and decided to lower my tolerance. i have successfully tapered to ~20gpd within the last few days. I've also been changed my waiting dosage time from 4 to a strict no less than 5 hours. I know there is only one way to find out, but do you think that the "lesser" kratom that i have stashed will feel different now or at least stop me from getting w/d's? (i know some people say they don't get w/d's, but i do). I'd like to know if any of this ever happened to you before and what your experience was. Did you lower your tolerance and have a batch you thought was bad turn out to be good once you tapered? Have you ever not took a white in a while and went back to it and felt sick even from a low dosage?
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