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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 2 weeks ago #47583

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yeah,, I don't typically take a white alone i have to blend. can make me tweak a few extra octaves and doesn't typically last as long, or help as much with pain. but a red/ white or green/ white are awesome.

expecially if the white im blending is from COB, re-leaf or in sense ( gold leaf too of course ) I will venture out of this box eventually, but on a limited budget right now. worked 11 hrs last week. AND on a full tolerance. husbands still loving red and yellow/ golds occasional green and course still have plenty!
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 2 weeks ago #47578

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Strong whites can drain me, and sometimes have me wondering if I'm going to get a mild headache. I never got one, but I rotate strains all the time, and keep my serving size reasonable.

Try re-hydrating, taking some B vitamin, and take some lecithin. I find that whites can stimulate the brain, and that requires extra upkeep of it. ;)

Rotate that out for a day, then try it again when feeling fresh. Or don't, it's your choice. :)
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 2 weeks ago #47560

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Right. Thanks much Jason. Yes, I have been in the practice of getting a small sample first but I have had the misfortune of getting some good samples but then the kg is not as good as the sample. I got some white Hulu from Otie’s in their sampler and it was terrific. As well as their Yellow Gold but when I got 250 grams of white Hulu it suddenly started making me dizzy when I got about 100 grams into it and I didn’t increase my dose. Like the funk was at the bottom.
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47371

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yes of course we are all cautious. from what I know they test but don't publish typically. I would contact them directly to be sure if its something you want to see. their blends are some of my favorites. but they typically don't have yellows or golds alone. those I get from the others.

one of his 'episodes' on the you tube channel was about the KCPA. I just don't think a few of the amendments are fair to us. like possibly being fined if you share product with others. and vendors being very liable for their product. a lot of sue happy/ evil/ conniving people out there. that would MAKE every vendor test every batch to prove its 'clean'

im not a political person, but I do vote and watch elections, ect. I understand the AKA usually has to make a compromise. and of course theres politics in everything. sometimes they can only take an inch. I just think some of the suggested parts of the policy would in the backside make things harder and more expensive in the long run. just my opinion.

watch it when you can. curious what your take on it is as well!
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47359

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Thank you Michele! I honestly have been out of the loop a bit in the Kratom world lately, I will check all of those out, may I ask if you know if they all test their product? I am so paranoid after going through TSW about what I put in my body (I know most of us are after being screwed over so much!) but really want to try some other vendors (especially my yellows!)

What did you mean by doesn't sound as good as you thought? Do you mean the KCPA itself? Curious what your thoughts are!
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47351

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Hello & Welcome to ILK Gnarmar. Wow 2008 that's a long ass time. I have been taking Kratom daily since about 2011. I have built up a Tolerance over the Years but I still get the Mood Lifting & all the other Effects but they are just somewhat Diminished from when I was taking it years ago.

I can tell a Difference in Average & High Quality Kratom right away because the Average Kratom has very mild effects on me whereas the High Quality Kratom's Effects are much more Pronounced & I can Actually Feel them compared to Average Kratom. All those Recommendations from Cybin & others & are all Great. One more I will add is Inland Botanicals.
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47326

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that's awesome nina!

my personal fvorite vendors for gold and yellows right now are in sense/ gold leaf, Bennis, oties and fused flora.

im doing better on the break than I expected! the end goal is to minimize my tolerance. lots of things ill do differently. this week is my krataversary- fist year of kratom use. if it wasn't for people like you I would still be working, just not as much, and in pain every day. now my pains manageable.

you will love joes show. hes got a few already. very informative and educational. a lot on the new supposed kratom protection act. doesn't sound as good as I thought it would be!
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47325

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Hiya again, Michele. Thanks for the reply and awesome suggestion. I'm definitely a consumer and advocate first before anything else so I am going to check them out this evening! I support other vendors as well, and actually use several in my rotation, TopEx just happens to be at the top of the list for me haha.

I'm so glad you're doing well on your break. It's kind of hard and daunting at first, but once you get going and put it in your head that you can do it, you certainly can! I used stem & vein my first few breaks but now I typically don't even have to do that and am able to just break, which is pretty awesome. I think a break from anything does the body good too.

What are some of your favorite yellows (vendor wise)? Love talking to a fellow yellow lover for suggestions so I can try others! :)
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 3 weeks ago #47307

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just my personal advice that you should take with a grain of salt.

You should be careful with those high dosages. You have a couple factors going on.

1. occasional 16g doses
2. taking kratom since 2008
3. white kratom

your tolerance is probably pretty high because of these factors. I know kratom is kind of weird and may "level out" if you don't increase the dosage, but people are different and some don't feel the same effects after a while even if they don't increase their dosage much. I wish i knew and research was done on it, but all we have to go off is our experiences.

With your 16g doses and fluctuating dosages that effect your tolerance, not to mention you may be getting a completely different kratom even if you order the same thing (they can be different batches and different kratom apparently since apparently a lot of vendors can't know what strain they have for sure), you may be miscalculating how much you think you need to feel the effects if your doses are erratic. If you take 16g one dose and are fine and take another strain at the same dose expecting to be fine, it could mess you up because they have different alkalines. This is ESPECIALLY with white kratom for me. I take 20-25g/day of red and green for months without touching white, and felt a hint of nausea with just 2.25g of white while my usual dose of green/reds were 6.25g. A word of advice: NEVER dose high on white kratom if you can help it, better yet, always take less with whites.

This is just my experience for my body, maybe some things may pertain to you or maybe not.
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Bad experience lately, any good kratom out there? 5 months 4 weeks ago #47269

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hey nina!

yeah I saw that! already multiple entries in the contest. I listen to my own advice.. sometimes..lol..i get emails even from vendors I haven't tried yet!

that blend sounds amazing!!!!!!!! blending a yellow or gold is one of my favorite things to do.

im actually on a full break right now. doing better than I even expected. only taken stem/ vein a handful of times in almost 2 weeks now. then again im on a work break so its easier!

how are you nina? I know your loyalty is to top extracts. check out BKS on you tube(re-leaf), lots of info about the kratom protection act I wasn't aware of. us kratomites gotta stick together! I just know you are a vocal kratom advocate. no disrespect of course to top extracts. love the extension of products!
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