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Is it really a potentiator??? 7 months 2 weeks ago #48172

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CanadianTW wrote: I was digging in the archives here and found the link to a study on tumeric and opioid tolerance. Nan70 and Laurie had posted it but here it is: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352596/#!po=4.91071

Its a nice bedtime read, science rocks!


yes, good share.
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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47588

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I was digging in the archives here and found the link to a study on tumeric and opioid tolerance. Nan70 and Laurie had posted it but here it is: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352596/#!po=4.91071

Its a nice bedtime read, science rocks!
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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47581

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it certainly will.

haven't taken any regular leaf since the morning of the 2nd. now im going to go as long as I can ( till work picks up! ) golf club in CT isn't too appealing right now.. lol

now ill start again stronger and more informed on many levels. and probably a more normal dose!
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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47577

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michele373 wrote: wow.

thank you for the chart and the explanations.

your knowledge is above most, I knew your specialty was based on science in one way or another! very helpful. I just cook for a living lol. to me that's pretty simple. feed hungry people.

the red bubble is interesting. just wasn't familiar with that.

yeah, ill be able to get white grapefruit in a few months, none around me anywhere right now. even the nice produce market I go to. but I figure fresh is better than the 30g sugar bottled stuff.

I do appreciate the lesson! =D>>:D


No worries, I just hope this helps some folks do the right thing and drop their dose a bit or get back on track.
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wow.

thank you for the chart and the explanations.

your knowledge is above most, I knew your specialty was based on science in one way or another! very helpful. I just cook for a living lol. to me that's pretty simple. feed hungry people.

the red bubble is interesting. just wasn't familiar with that.

yeah, ill be able to get white grapefruit in a few months, none around me anywhere right now. even the nice produce market I go to. but I figure fresh is better than the 30g sugar bottled stuff.

I do appreciate the lesson! =D>>:D
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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47546

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Babel-17 wrote: Excellent distinctions, all well said, imo.

So, coffee or Rhodiola can potentiate Kratom's effects in the daytime, while Theanine or Valerian could potentiate its effects if taken to help with sleep, or relaxation?


Correct for the GABA. The GABA effects of the Theanine and Valerian can enhance the perceived effects of the burn. However, the alkaloids reactions from valerian root are not well studied, I can't find anything on what they do. I suspect they could potentially trigger receptors as well (I'll stay away from it until I learn more).

Caffeine in coffee speeds digestion and metabolism allowing the body to absorb the alkaloids faster. However, it can also create anxiety. In my 10 min Google search, I couldn't find the chemicals active in Rhodiola and would have to look into this one further as well.

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you blow my mind. seriously. I know babel fully understands. I kinda get it. certainly understand it more. perfect timing too cause im in the middle of a full reset.

do you have a science/ biology degree? really beyond what us average leaf heads regurgitate. and what is red bubble? never heard of that one. when is it best used and how? does high alkaline water work? you got my mind jogging now... I did buy real grapefruits before my break lol..had to dilute it with club but it worked great.


I work in environmental management, specifically I do a lot of analysis of how chemical spills/dumps/releases affect plants and animals. Anatomy and physiology don't change much really.

Red bubble as Canadian said, is a method of freezing kratom to draw the alkaloids out. It can also refer to boiling (simmer really) under 180 degrees to get the alkaloids out. I was mainly referring to tea. Both destroy some of the plant matter and release alkaloids. These are beneficial if one can't handle the powder.

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Here's a guide to the tea method, notice the deep brilliant red color we call the "red bubble."

Alkaline water is good as well as any alkaline foods. Basically, the more you prepare your body, the better the burn will be. Realistically though, diet, hydration, and exercise are the best potentiators IMHO. I would tell you the type of grapefruit is important, as some produce awesome enzymes for liver functions, but the others don't.

Check out this chart for a list of nice things to put your body alkaline. Notice the acidic citrus on the left side... Again, your body processes them alkaline.

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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47543

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The red bubble refers to the freezing method. You mix a little water (1 oz) with a little kratom (2-5 gr) and a small red bubble appears when frozen well. I use this method most times now as its convenient to have it pre measured in the freezer. And it does help the effects especially with coarser grinds or more mature leaf.

Great post FusedFlora, thank you for taking the time to share this info, it is very valuable. This is the first time i read this info on the tumeric mecanism of action and timing. Cheers :)
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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47525

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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 4 days ago #47520

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Very Interesting & makes sense!! Thanks for the clarification. Like Michele, I’ve never heard of the “Red Bubble” can you plz describe this process?

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Edit: What do you think of taking kratom before or at same time as yogurt?

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Is it really a potentiator??? 8 months 5 days ago #47506

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shaun

you blow my mind. seriously. I know babel fully understands. I kinda get it. certainly understand it more. perfect timing too cause im in the middle of a full reset.

do you have a science/ biology degree? really beyond what us average leaf heads regurgitate. and what is red bubble? never heard of that one. when is it best used and how? does high alkaline water work? you got my mind jogging now... I did buy real grapefruits before my break lol..had to dilute it with club but it worked great.
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