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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 20 hours ago #48355

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Hi folks! I've posted a bit in the past on the forum, but for the most part I just lurk here and try to absorb all the wonderful information that you all share, but I had an experience this week that has left me with some questions and I wanted to see if any of you had any thoughts about this.

I'm an everyday kratom user. I take it for chronic shoulder pain that became an issue for me after I broke my humerus and my collar bone a couple of years ago. I started out small like everyone I guess, but over the last couple of years my intake has increased. I don't measure my doses, but just calculating by how much I generally use in the course of a week I would say I take 16 to 18 grams a day broken up into 3 different doses, so 6 grams 3 times a day I guess. I have taken short breaks in the past and found them less than comfortable, with problems that included flu-like symptoms, restless legs, insomnia and of course the inevitable return of the pain that I take the kratom for in the first place.

This past Saturday afternoon I ended up in the ER because I couldn't breathe. Turns out I had the flu and pneumonia. I had to be admitted to the hospital so they could give me IV antibiotics. I was in the hospital until Wednesday afternoon, so 4 days. I was really worried that kratom withdrawal would just make things even more miserable for me while I was there, but I woke up the morning after I was admitted feeling surprisingly OK, even rested, and I'm just wondering why there were no withdrawal symptoms.

I had one dose of cough syrup with codeine the first night I was there, but that was a one time thing. Other than that I was getting the IV antibiotics, tamiflu, some pretty hefty doses of steroids and frequent breathing treatments with albuterol. So, was it the steroids that saved me from the withdrawal? I'm home now, and still on a kratom break. My doctor is tapering me off of the steroids (I was told that was necessary) but I'm still not having any withdrawal symptoms. I'm not even having any of the shoulder pain that would normally make me want to take kratom, which is amazing to me.

I avoid doctors and prescriptions as much as possible, so my knowledge of all this stuff is limited and it's not something I'm comfortable talking to my doctor about. I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about this? Thanks for reading.
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 19 hours ago #48360

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I don’t have any experience with this ... but very interested and want to hear what others with some medical knowledge can shed light on...

Perhaps( my intuition) it’s the steroids... I don’t know the mechanism of how or why ... def boosted some functions in your body ( that’s what they do right ?)

Sorry you had to go to the hospital.... your feeling better now ??
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 19 hours ago #48361

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Thank you for your reply. I'm still very weak and tired, but I am better than I would have expected considering the shape I was in Saturday evening. I tend to think it's mostly some kind of artificial boost from the steroids like you're saying, but that's fine, I'll take what I can get, lol.
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 18 hours ago #48364

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hey seven!

glad you got reintroduced, so to speak. I find this interesting too. I as well think its the steroids, and well partly cause you just ARE better as a whole. a combination and synergy in knocking the bad out of you just might make you better as a whole in the longrun!!

maybe your lungs were effected and your pain you just attributed it more to your shoulder and such. not sure, but if it worked its awesome.

I just got off a full 4 week reset, and I measured almost all my does. some kratom I took 8 to 9 grams for it to be effective. I didn't have withdraws. I was sick within a few days but it was the flu, not your traditional kratom stuff. but for a few days right after I was fine. took stem/ vein and akuamma and stuff. uncomfortable but not unbearable. but I wasn't working either so that made it easier.

hope you feel better. take some good self care. diffuse peppermint oil or lavender or something. take some prebiotics or keifer. lots of leafy greens and garlic and such. ive had to get iv antibiotics. not fun. drained me. get well :)
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 17 hours ago #48370

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Hi Michele, thanks for the well-wishes. As I think about this more I believe that I might have really underestimated the healing properties of sleep. One of the worst problems for me when taking a kratom break has always been the insomnia. Lack of sleep from that often leaves me so exhausted that I just want to give up and give in. Right now though, I'm worn out enough at night that I fall asleep easily and nothing wakes me. It's good solid rest and it feels great. I'm wondering if just that one aspect of the whole thing could make that much difference?

Awesome job on your reset! I'm not sure how long I will stretch this break out, but for now I'm not having any shoulder pain, so I'm going to leave everything on the shelf and see how it goes day by day.

Leafy greens for the win! My guy brought me home from the hospital and asked what I wanted for dinner. Somebody out there will think this is gross, but I had him make me a big pot of collard greens cooked with a smoked turkey wing and a pan of cornbread. I'm not really eating a lot, but I love the cornbread soaked in the pot likker when my stomach starts growling.
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 16 hours ago #48371

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I personally love collard greens!!! With butter and salt ... just sooooo gooood!!!!! Sounds medicinally yummy !
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 16 hours ago #48372

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Absolutely! We always make it with apple-cider vinegar, red pepper flakes and molasses for just a hint of sweetness.
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 7 hours ago #48381

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yummy!!!!!!!!!! youre making me hungry!
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 2 hours ago #48389

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Dang it seven, now MY stomach is growling. :lol:
I'll take what you're having with some grits on the side. :woohoo:
I hope you get to feeling better real soon.
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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Questions about kratom withdrawal 3 days 1 hour ago #48396

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Hey seven, interesting experience- wish my t-breaks were as painless as yours has been so far. As far as I remember, there have been studies on neurotransmitter release when in new environments. Subjects who were taking drugs in environments that were regular spots for them had a measurably higher tolerance to those drugs than in brand new environments. Maybe the scenery change, combined with everything that was going on at the hospital, as well as the steroids easing your pain which normally stands out all helped contribute to the lack of withdrawal symptoms? I'm not sure if the steroids could do this, or maybe another drug they might have prescribed, but in general non-narcotic nervous system depressants such as clonidine can greatly ease withdrawal symptoms since they calm down the overactivity that usually occurs upon cessation of taking something like kratom which gets your brain used to being a little sedated.
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