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TOPIC: Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement

Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38564

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Thank you so very much for the words of encouragement Something. I really do appreciate your input. I'm fighting this lung infection and very high fevers that come in waves. I've lost 12 pounds in the last 7 days. I need to get this lung bug under control or I WD's will be my least of problems. I'm looking forward to starting the kratom. I'd like to have this lung infection under control first. I think that would be prudent.

Thank you so much for your help.

Be blessed and I hope all you wonderful ladies, mothers or not, have a very blessed mothers day!!

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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38549

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Robie wrote:

Nan70 wrote: Dosing is harder to guess based on the average I have read 3 to up to 8 grams might be needed. It depends on your prior and current med use. I will link some convos about switching off when I am home from work. Until then maybe others have feedback.

Hello Nan. I have a question? I'm getting cofused or mixed signals. Should I be off the pain meds for a couple of days before starting the Kratom. I'm all confused. I have Red Malay, Red Borneo, Red Ketapang, Red Bentuangie, Red Bali and Red Maengda.

In the greens I have Bentuangie, Super Malay, Hulu, Thai, Riau,Super Optima, Maeng Da and Sumatra. I have no idea what I'm doing or where to start. I think I'm getting mixed up in the different stories.

Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. I'm running a wicked fever and I'm not understanding a lot of what I am reading.

Be blessed Nan and thank you.

Robie

Robbie..

You have a very nice variety to work with, good job choosing your selection,

I’ve read that some folks stop taking pain meds and switch immediately over to kratom, others will alternate pain meds, then kratom then pain meds then kratom,( as Laurie mentioned) some will taper , or wait till wd starts then dose. Be kind to yourself either way, if you do a direct switch over and find that you need to take some meds, so be it , but first try upping the dose or a different strain, have faith that this can and will work !!!(L)



I think the route to take will be based solely on how you choose to approach it and how your body responds to no opiates and with kratom,
But the theme is that there’s a few different trails to get to the same beautiful summit... Which ever route you choose to do this will be just fine and what ever one feels best to you . If one strain isn’t helping, try dosing more of that strain or switch to a different strain, since your just beginning you don’t have a reference point to know what strains help more than others, but that’s half the fun/ work is trying them all out and finding one that works best for you , mix some strains if need be, 1/2 green 1/2 red ...there’s no wrong way , just start moderately 2-4 gms and take booster doses if wd’s are needing more help. Next day you can start 4-6 gms if previous day wasnt a good starting dose. The scary thing I imagine is just not knowing how it’s gonna go, but you will soon know with relief and wonder why you hadn’t done this sooner... those were my thoughts anyways when I stopped my meds...
( antidepressants/ anxiety meds)
I started with 2 tsp 3 x a day. It was miraculous in helping me.

Have a great evening Robbie and know so many of us are thinking about you and sending the best vibes we have ,

Just wanted to help simplify the approach for you, hope that is how it’s received:)

Rehashing in a nutshell, you can take kratom at any point in time , the goal is to stop opiates, taking a dose of kratom before wd happens is a good way I think ( no point in struggling if it can be remedied!) or when wd begins take dose of kratom,

You have a wonderful mind and heart and not lacking personality/ character in the least .. you are gonna do great !! No such thing as a free lunch but this is as close as it gets .... I think you’ll do great Robbie

Take care

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You got this ROBBIE!!!
and if you need to start on a different day as Laurie may have some concerns about it, take good heed to her advice, her karma grows more beautiful everyday and i feel she has good experience and reason in suggesting those kinds of things ,

Rock on Robbie :-bd =D> (L)

Take good care of yourself and be well

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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38546

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Robie,

I have one concern about your starting date plan. I sent it via private message.

Laurie
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Laurie wrote: For a slower transition - procrastinators who don’t believe yet (yes, you) - just replace every other opiate dose with kratom at first. After you DON’T feel awful, the rotating continues until you are good and convinced.

There is no more discomfort in doing this than your current fever, which I still have also. On and off.

I’m spending a beautiful Summer day in the guest bed I’m staying on for the last time tonight.

The trick is to notice WHAT YOU DON’T FEEL.

Everyone says, “I don’t feel anything, what am I doing wrong?!”

That’s exactly what you’ll feel. Nothing you didn’t already feel.

If you FEEL SOMETHING, definitely alert us as to what. Over sized doses will make you nauseous, and then you won’t be able to choke down the powder EVER AGAIN (this is the most common mistake).

We are right here for you! <hug>


I can not begin to express my gratitude to you wonderful, gentle people. I know I'm messed up in the head from these damn fevers. On and off just like yours Laurie. It's not fun and very muddling. I'm going to start first thing in the morning. I'm actually fighting back the tears from your kindness.

Be blessed and I hope we both get better soon! 14 days of this is a bit much!!!

Robie Hugs back at you!!
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For a slower transition - procrastinators who don’t believe yet (yes, you) - just replace every other opiate dose with kratom at first. After you DON’T feel awful, the rotating continues until you are good and convinced.

There is no more discomfort in doing this than your current fever, which I still have also. On and off.

I’m spending a beautiful Summer day in the guest bed I’m staying on for the last time tonight.

The trick is to notice WHAT YOU DON’T FEEL.

Everyone says, “I don’t feel anything, what am I doing wrong?!”

That’s exactly what you’ll feel. Nothing you didn’t already feel.

If you FEEL SOMETHING, definitely alert us as to what. Over sized doses will make you nauseous, and then you won’t be able to choke down the powder EVER AGAIN (this is the most common mistake).

We are right here for you! <hug>
Laurie
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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38536

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Nan70 wrote: A Summary of the basics- from www.ilovekratom.com/kratom-news-blog/57-the-easies...addiction-to-opiates
<strong>Taper your dose of opioids as low as possible over a period of days
take a level teaspoon of your chosen Red Vein strain
Wait 30-60 minutes to see if this is enough to give you sufficient relief without threat of nausea. If it's not enough, cautiously take another half or whole teaspoon. Don't overdo it. There is no way I can guess how much you need. You will quickly find how much you need, if you listen to your body.
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From Brandon(somethingscared)
<strong>and you will have a tolerance because of pain meds meaning you may well need to start with higher doses. So 1-1/2 tsp or 2/-3 tsp is a good starting point.</strong>

There are a handful of forum members that were able to replace their pain med dose with kratom and that was it. Dosing size is still where success and failure happens. A level teaspoon is roughly 2 grams this dose size I suspect will be too low but its the common starting point.

Are you going to take capsules or drink the powder in juice or water? Remember tip number 1 with kratom keep hydrated, drink more water.


hope you are able to tackle your fever feel better,


Thank you very much Nan. I really appreciate it. I will be drinking the powders in gatoraid mixed with emercenC. I think the fevers are making my mind loopy. This is a very nasty flu. Thank you again so very much!!

Be blessed,

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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38535

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A Summary of the basics- from www.ilovekratom.com/kratom-news-blog/57-the-easies...addiction-to-opiates
Taper your dose of opioids as low as possible over a period of days
take a level teaspoon of your chosen Red Vein strain
Wait 30-60 minutes to see if this is enough to give you sufficient relief without threat of nausea. If it's not enough, cautiously take another half or whole teaspoon. Don't overdo it. There is no way I can guess how much you need. You will quickly find how much you need, if you listen to your body.

From Brandon(somethingscared)
and you will have a tolerance because of pain meds meaning you may well need to start with higher doses. So 1-1/2 tsp or 2/-3 tsp is a good starting point.

There are a handful of forum members that were able to replace their pain med dose with kratom and that was it. Dosing size is still where success and failure happens. A level teaspoon is roughly 2 grams this dose size I suspect will be too low but its the common starting point.

Are you going to take capsules or drink the powder in juice or water? Remember tip number 1 with kratom keep hydrated, drink more water.


hope you are able to tackle your fever feel better,
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Nan70 wrote: Dosing is harder to guess based on the average I have read 3 to up to 8 grams might be needed. It depends on your prior and current med use. I will link some convos about switching off when I am home from work. Until then maybe others have feedback.

Hello Nan. I have a question? I'm getting cofused or mixed signals. Should I be off the pain meds for a couple of days before starting the Kratom. I'm all confused. I have Red Malay, Red Borneo, Red Ketapang, Red Bentuangie, Red Bali and Red Maengda.

In the greens I have Bentuangie, Super Malay, Hulu, Thai, Riau,Super Optima, Maeng Da and Sumatra. I have no idea what I'm doing or where to start. I think I'm getting mixed up in the different stories.

Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. I'm running a wicked fever and I'm not understanding a lot of what I am reading.

Be blessed Nan and thank you.

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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38413

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Thank you Brandon. I appreciate all advice. I really like this forum. Such helpful and kind people.

Be blessed in all your endeavors.

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Kratom for Depression/ Mood Enhancement 1 year 2 weeks ago #38412

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Good morning Robbie,
from what I understand the best benefit to get from kratom when stopping pain meds is wd mitigation, which I’d think is totally worth it’s weight, if after starting with 2-3 gms, and your not getting relief , you can keep on taking more. I started my regimen with 4 grams or 2 tsp.... (but wasn't withdrawing from pain meds , was with antidepressants and anxiety meds)) .... and you will have a tolerance because of pain meds meaning you may well need to start with higher doses. So 1-1/2 tsp or 2/-3 tsp is a good starting point. Redose when needing more relief. Victor is a perfect example of kratom helping stop meds. It might just completely surprise you how well this helps. As time goes on you’ll get the added effects/ benefits which is what I use kratom for , pain management, depression/ anxiety... gives energy and makes one feel very happy,

Hope you are recovering from that nasty flu, sounds a bit brutal !!

Take care of yourself, we are all here to help you get through this time, stay hydrated and get lots of rest

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