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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38079

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Hello, I'm new. I tried white maeng da today, first time trying kratom, and it was eh. Went about the same as caffeine for me, which is: doesn't really affect my fatigue, but gave me a headache. I took a total of 3g over 4 hours (first 1g, then 0.5g caps every 30ish mins).

Still waiting for my doctors to do something useful but it's taking a long time and meanwhile I'm suffering being exhausted all the time, despite sleeping 16+ hours per day, so I'm desperate for something that will make life tolerable. Open to suggestions other than kratom if it can be sourced quickly and easily. Thanks for any help.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38081

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I'm a fan of whites.

I also suffer from daytime sleepiness.

Your dose is on the low side. Tomorrow try 4g and if that doesn't work try another 2g around 2 hours later.and then next day take 6g + 2g etc

You haven't given it enough of a chance.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38084

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hm, I'll try again. I think it might've given me a migraine but I'm not sure if it was a coincidence.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38090

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Stillsleeping- check your private messages
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38093

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Have you tried AddieUP? I have the same condition. My doctor says narcolepsy and this daytime sleepiness -- especially after meals -- is caused by insulin resistance and pre-diabetes (which might be true in my case.

But AddieUP keeps me going strong most of the day. (I only take a third of a cap.) Kratom helps the insulin resistance if you may have that problem. Whites help a little, but AddieUP comes up the best of al the smart pills I've tried and better than Armodafinil, even.

It's not something I'd recommend abusing, but it can definitely sharpen your mind without robbing you of sleep if you're moderate with your use of it and your other health habits.

Check it out. Google it. It's well-balanced with brain-nourishing herbs and nutrients and usually some form of slow-release herbal caffeine, like guarana or yerba mate extra, with a little caffeine anhydrous. Formulated by a chiropractor raised on Adderall, but wanted something natural, but strong.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38101

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Welcome to the best kratom forum ever, stillsleeping!

I am of the opposite opinion on the dosing (no offense, ETC!). I would try an alternative vendor, same strain. Whites are ALL OVER THE PLACE with what they do from one source to another.

I just tried the Bright Eyes Blend from Blue River Wellness, an ILK Approved Vendor out of S Carolina. 1.5 grams at one time was too stimulating for me. I plan to use it in smaller doses mixed with a red or more green for my purposes.

I definitely sympathize, too!

When you’re new to kratom, headaches are a direct result of dehydration that is not easily noticed. I would DEFINITELY get a powdered or liquid electrolyte added to water when you try again. Otherwise the headache defeats any benefit.

Keep us posted with your journey please. I also struggle with fatigue and I cannot handle whites on their own or I get crabby and/or anxiety. Even this BLEND was too stimulating for me at a low dose, and I’m not new to kratom.

I enjoyed the Addie Up supplement Paul suggested. I never miss a recommendation from him.

I just had to remind everyone about hydration being more than just drinking a bunch of water. That’s not adequate. Electrolytes are a must for beginners with the leaf.

Hope you find some enjoyable help on your journey.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38103

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None taken, I didn't say anything about dosing.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38104

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LMAO

I meant kratering! Haha

No offense, kratering!

Thanks for the reply, ETC!

Hahahahahha
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38105

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It is strange though, now that you mention it. I was messing around with those two Insense strains, white Hulu and white Thai, trying see if mixing them helped. I started getting a headache about an hour and 1/2 in, I ate something and it started going away. Same thing happened the first time I tried the Hulu alone. Hydration wasn't the issue but, food was (maybe salt in the food). I've never had that issue with Kratom before and didn't again today with the HH I took (white Sumatra). The other ones, that didn't help with. Not really relevent, just reminded me.
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Need something for chronic fatigue/excessive daytime sleepiness. 3 months 2 weeks ago #38183

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I didn't know about the electrolytes, thanks for mentioning that. I tried again today with a smaller dose, Gatorade, a tiny bit of caffeine, and more water, and it went better. 1g in the morning, and another 1g a few hours later. I still felt tired "beneath" the stimulating effect, but it's good enough for me, and is pretty similar to how it felt on the rare occasion caffeine worked for me.

The AddieUp supplement sounds pretty good, but I'm getting back into regular medical care soon and they'll probably want me off as many things as possible. So I'm dipping my toe into kratom because it's not a big monetary investment.

I did get absolutely scammed with this first purchase, though. I knew headshops weren't recommended and more expensive, but I thought it couldn't be that far off if I was just going to try a little bit. Nope, apparently $15 for 8g is astronomically high...
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