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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46349

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Nan,
How are you and your family?
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My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)

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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46345

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Look into these kratom substitutes most will help with sleep.

Corydalis
incarvillea sinensis
akuamma

Also Kava helps with relaxation.

In this post start at page 7? We talk about other botanical pain relievers. And dosing.


Some links to look through
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/general-dialogue/5762-in...start=0#.XfJak-hKiUl
www.kratomnews.org/akuamma-seeds/

Pain management is hard and all consuming. People do not necessarily look at us and know we are suffering. Hang in there. Look into all alternatives so you can have a back up plan when something like this happens.

I can try to suggest drinking green tea, red pepper seeds, depending on what is causing your pain, ice packs or heating pad to help you get through the now.

Please take care.
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46344

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Thank you. I guess im just desperate because Im in constant pain as long as I dont have kratom. Getting sleep is impossible. Going to work feels like a nightmare. All Im thinking about at work is how im going to sleep when I get home. I dont want to talk to anyone not friends nor family. I have a constant feeling deep inside that I cant keep doing this. Its like im living in a nightmare. I dont want to live because there is nothing to look forward to. I used to actually enjoy life just because I new when work was over I would BE ABLE TO SLEEP when i got home. That was enough to take away the depression all day. Now I got that bit of happiness stripped away from me. I dont know what to do.
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46327

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Better play it safe .... don’t use the kratom that coincided this hive outbreak... take a week or two off ... kava , akkuama,! Corydalis.... like Michele mentioned ... will help while taking a small break ... good thing kratom is so forgiving ... you’ll be fine as long as your kind to yourself during this time ... soon you’ll be just fit as a fiddle to take kratom again... I also agree with Michele... try s different vendor .... we all have some good suggestions.... if you need help choosing ... feel free to ask , we want the best for you !!

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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46323

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Ive never had an allergic reaction in my life. I never even get a runny nose anymore (used to when I was a kid ) i have dogs, cats, birds, and I live perfectly fine with them, no allergies. I eat lots of different foods, so I dont believe I get allergies easily. So along with the chunk I ate, the tiny white dusty looking hairs I saw in it, and the fact it made me dizzy AND the fact it didnt work AT ALL, I dont think it was the kratom I had the aLlergic reaction too. I do think the kratom made it worse and made it last longer cause the histamines.
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46317

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im no doctor. its so hard to tell! I would get another vendor. id say wait at least a week. and don't start with an extract. just my opinion
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46316

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I understand i cant take kratom but im not sure how long. The hives have gone away completely so does that mean I can use it again. Im willing to wait but I have no idea how long to wait, is it just till the hives leave (which they did). Thank you so much for responding it means alot cause I dont no who to ask for advice.
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46315

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hey kratomuser! im sorry we had to meet under duress.

I hate to say but I agree with everyone. please look into another herbal/ kratom company. im not saying theyre bad but just doesn't sound kosher. insense/ gold leaf has a great 'other botanicals' section. I recommend akuamma, Incarvillea. also corydalis and skullcap for nighttime. wild lettuce is a good piggyback of another one, at least for me.

you might just need a break. and maybe a new vendor. at least to try. we have an approved herbal company as well. herb stomp. at least do some searching. good time to try something different. ive been looking into indian warrior. haven't tried it yet. kinda pricy. but if it works its worth it!

glad you found us. hope you are feeling better.
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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46310

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Kratomuser101..

Dang , that’s not fun .. I’m sorry you had that reaction to kratom..

Having not read that old hives post in a while , I believe the gentleman who first posted about kratom and hives gave it a break for a bit , I forget but I think there was some underlying stuff that brought in on and kratom exasperated the symptoms.... but the good news was after taking a 2-3 week break he was able to resume taking kratom without any issues.... again.... I can’t recall all the points involved but Laurie amd Nan has given You the best advise to stop kratom for now .... look at it as a forced tolerance break ! Once your system has cleansed itself and your feeling better .... try from a different vendor and see how it goes ...

I believe that in the other post about hives that the person was even able to use the original kratom that coincided his outbreak ... I could totally be wrong but I do remember that he resumed and was fine ...

Def give yourself a break for 2-3 weeks ... it’s a good call ..

Nan mentioned Akuamma..... it’s very helpful for pain ....

Good luck and keep us posted !!

I’ll be sending the best healing vibes your way my friend !

Take care (L)

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How many Red Bali 500mg capsules to equal pain relief of Hydrocodone 6 months 3 weeks ago #46309

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Hello Kratomuser welcome to the forum,
Not sure if I can answer your questions.
First do you have any known allergies?
Are all your batches from the same vendor?
Taunton Bay sells other products I would call and ask if any of their kratom could have been crossed "contaminated" with a non kratom herbal or tea product. And hope they are honest.
It could also be the way the extract was made. Overall this forum not big on extract recommendations.

You will probably be told to stop taking the kratom. (when using for pain I know this is hard but allergic reactions should be taken seriously) You can try Akuamma instead while you take a break from kratom or purchase plain leaf non extract from another vendor.

you should get more feedback soon

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