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TOPIC: Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too!

Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32820

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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32831

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I've been having problems with quality and consistency.... like everyone else, except for the fact that I never seem to luck out, not even once. I find a strain and vender that I like real well but I'm never sent the same product on re-order. People give me their recommendations but by the time I order it, it's magically no good anymore. On your recommendation, I'm going to order red and green Ketapang from DakineKratom.com but I'm doing so out of desperation. I really don't expect them to be any good by the time I order them. If you have any NEW recommendation from stuff you've ordered more recently, please pass those recommendation along. On recommendation, I just ordered Ganesh MD from gaiaethnobotanical.com and the stuff they sent me was WORTHLESS. Not "worthless" like it works but works poorly... there's no pain relief there whatsoever. I too have spinal nerve damage done by an overconfident egomaniac surgeon. There isn't enough oxycodone to solve my pain but that's all I have until I can, once again, find a Kratom that has some pain relief to it.
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32834

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Sorry to hear about the problems with Kratom MrBear.

From your post you have ordered quality Kratom and you found a dose and strain that works until the reorder? You could be someone who develops strain tolerance fairly quickly.
This will mean you will need to work on a rotation schedule.Do not take the same strain more than once in a row. You will still need quality Kratom. And know what strains work for you for pain relief.
If you haven't worked on a rotation schedule- an example Reds at night, Greens during the day. Every night switch your strain. Red Borneo , then Red thai, Red Bali and so on. Same with the day strains.

I am not a fan of Gaia. And I have read hit and misses with Herbal and Socal lately.

I had consistent results from a years worth of kratom use from In sense/Goldleaf, Re-leaf LLC, and Pa Botanicals,

Also having oxycodone in your system can negate Kratom's pain relieving properties, but we do have some members who can rotate the use successfully.

You can also e-mail your vendor and ask if they have the same batch you ordered from. I know Re-leaf keeps record of all their batches.

I wish you luck with DakineKratom I liked their samples I received very much.

Please ask any question you need until we can help you figure this out.

You might consider this also- Using potentiators
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/kratom-discuss...ratom?start=10#24143

speciosaguide.com/kratom-potentiators-ho...ance-kratom-effects/
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32838

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I can't buy the tolerance theory... not even a little. I'll buy a big bag of Kratom that works, as much as a Kg at a time. That one bag will work wonderfully from the top of the bag and all the way to the bottom of the bag. When I re-order the exact same strain from the exact same vender... it's not like it works but works poorly; it's like it doesn't work at all. I'm 100% convinced I'm getting a completely different product upon re-order. It's possible it's from the same tree, just out of season but for whatever reason, the re-order has no drug in it. I've amassed quite a collection of worthless, ineffective, Kratom but there doesn't seem to be much I can do about it. Collecting bad Kratom seems to be the common experience of all Kratom users.

I bought eight different 250g bags of Kratom from SoCal Herbal Remedies. Of the eight strains, (7) strains were completely useless. The 8th strain was mediocre, which is to say that it DID work but only if I ate about 65 grams at a time. At that rate, a Kg goes pretty fast. But that's okay. Mediocre is okay. I'll take anything that works, even if I have to take huge doses. Alas, SoCal Herbal Remedies no longer carries that one mediocre stain that does work. That pretty much leaves me to my current situation, trying to find a new strain from a new vender.
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32839

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Hey craydumb, the website is Dakinekratom.com. Email pete , the owner , hes a great human and wants to help!!

Just saw Laurie out the site name , your on it dude(L) :x
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32840

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I’ve been very interested in re-leaf and inland botanicals... I have samples coming in soon from inland and I have yet to order from re-leaf, from what I’ve read they have very good Kratom, I’ve emailed both places and they all seem like above average vendors in communication/ customer service. I’ll post a review when I get inland samples in. Really looking forward to trying both these vendors out.

madmax has had a strong hand in directing my purchases .. thx madmax (L) I mean it , truly appreciate all your reviews !!!’

Aside from that I’ve had some good success with Treasurhousebotanicals, another great owner. I always email to get to know who I’m dealing with and what their thoughts are on strains that suits my needs.

I also agree to a point with MrBear that one batch can be the beezneez and then you order same strain but different batch and it’s not half as good ... also seasons need to be considered like nan70 mentioned
I personally have noticed if I use the same strain day in and day out after a few to several days it starts to loose its power, still effective but not as powerful...I take a break from it for a few days and it’s more effective upon returning to it..... but we are all uniquely wired !! I wish my favorite bags were always good and effective no matter the frequency of days taking it...

I find relief knowing that taking a small break from any certain good strain and coming back to it always makes me go “yes” !!! All over again

We’re all different though
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32841

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MrBear,

So its definitely a vendor issue.
Gaia and Socal should go on your no list. Find a vendor who has source consistency. Gaia and Socal are so high volume their strains are probably too all over the place. If this is not the case I apologize to these vendors but I am highly suspicious.

Have you tried Re-leaf, InSense/ Gold Leaf, Christopher's,or Inland Botanical ? They will know their batches. These are my recommendations.

keep us posted on how you like Dakine.
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32842

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Not to be a hater , but I will not in the foreseeable future ever order from Gaia or SoCal again. It’s a needle in a haystack and I havent found the needle but once from many bales of hay... never from SoCal , not to say you might get lucky once in a while but I want my purchases to count as much as possible. Just like all of you ....

Try the list of vetted vendors on this forum and search out madmaxs reviews , bomally and nan70 also steer the vessel in the good direction as well. Laurie is very diplomatic with vendors but urges people to look at the approved list they have here

We are so lucky to have their input , it’s helped me tremendously

MrBear, I’m sorry you haven’t hit home yet, try small samples form a handful of vendors and you will find some winners , then bulk up on those ... pain meds will probably not allow you to get the “full effects” of Kratom no matter the strength, but I don’t know that for certain..I wish you the best ... one more thought though, perhaps extract could be good for you if your on pain meds, that might break though!the saturated receptors....

Good luck and please keep us posted
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 4 weeks ago #32864

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Madmax- I second Christopher's organic botanical. I've yet to find a better quality vendor. Try his greens.

Also, at 65g/dose, I would definitely recommend you trying extracts. That's certainly a high dose.
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Unusually high quality kratom! Lets make a killer list of other great ones too! 4 months 3 weeks ago #32899

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3 pages and no one's pin pointed a strain or vendor associated with the strains. I've just wrote a review, but I haven't ordered from here in a couple of months so I have no clue.
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