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TOPIC: Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good?

Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 5 days ago #35767

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Trying to find approved vendor that has a quality red strain that's in stock right now. Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 4 days ago #35778

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What Qualities are you looking for in this Red Strain other than Sedating?

I would Recommend Counting Sheep or Yellow Brick Road Blends from Inland Botanicals if you are looking for something Sedating. They're Red Bali & Red Borneo are very relaxing as well.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 4 days ago #35779

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I would Recommend getting Samples Packs of just Red Strains from Different Vendors & finding the Best ones that suit you because what works for me may not necessarily work for you or the next person. That's the Weird thing about Kratom. Some White Strains sedate me like most White MD's.

Usually a Red Bentuangie is going to be very sedating or relaxing for most people.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 4 days ago #35798

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I agree with Madmax re: IB’s YBR. Even though this isn’t a Red strain, I found Yellow Brick Road from Inland to be sedating when I first used it. I’ve become acclimated to it after using it for 6+ months though and it’s no longer sedating but its still relaxing. At first I could use it for sleep! Everyone’s body chemistry is different so you could have different effects. Unlike Madmax, Red Bali from Inland is more uplifting for me, like most RB’s I don’t find it sedating. Good Luck

Definitely agree that you should try samplers from ILK’s approved vendors.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 4 days ago #35817

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Insense's Red Sumatra has always been one of my more sedating Reds.
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I guess this is as good a place as any for an update on my experiences with the first batch of kratom from ISB.
It is probably TMI.

First order was for 3 different Maeng Da strains. Red, Gold, and Green.
Rob also sent a 6gm packet of white ketapang and red Ma D.

1st ever taking it started with 1/2 level tsp of the red ma d sample in hot tea with some honey in it. I felt tired about an hour later but no pain relief at that level. Went to bed at 9pm and slept normally.

Day 2, 3/4 level tsp white ketapang with OJ. Noticed some pain relief and spaciness about an hour later.

Day 3, 1.5 tsp of the white ketapang in my black coffee this morning. It made the coffee taste like a vegetable energy drink (I kinda like it) but it took a lot of the chronic body pain away. I am very impressed. I wish it could have also taken the migraine away but I guess I can't have everything. The spaciness is still there though.

Day 4, 1.5 tsp of the Green MA D IN citrus Green iced tea. Very tired for 1 ST hour - some pain relief - Very tired at the end of the day. Had a level 5 headache all day. Not from the Ma D. Just my normal daily headache for the past 2 years.

Day 5, 1 tsp Gold MA D - slow ramp to a large level of spaciness in 2 Hours. LASTED 1.5 hours. Some headache relief. Level 6 down to 4. ALL effects Gone After 3 HOURS.

Day 6, 1 tsp red Ma D from the sample in hot water. Little tired and spacey but no pain relief after 2 hours. Took another 1 tsp red Ma D by toss and wash. Very tired an hour later, went to be and slept OK but woke up with a level 9 migraine.

Day 7, 5am, 1 zomig for Level 9 migraine. Headache down to 6. Took another zomig at noon. Still had a headache at level 4 by the end of the day. Took 3 advil and they did nothing. Took 1/4 tsp red before bed. Slept good but woke with usual level 4 headache at 3am.

Day 8, 1/2 tsp gold Ma D in hot water at 6am before leaving for work. Some headache and body pain relief but no relief from pain in hands. Some spaciness and energy during work. Headache started to return after lunch. 1/4 tsp at 5pm. Headache calmed a bit and so did I but also could not sleep due to energy from the gold. 1/4 tsp red at 11pm. Got tired and went to bed at 1am and slept till 5am. Headache at 2.

Day 9, 1/4 tsp gold in hot water at 6am. Feeling calm by 7am. Headache no worse. Took another 1/4 tsp in tea at noon. Headache at 3-4. Spacey about an hour later. Tired 2 hours after that. Headache about 2-3.
8pm 1 tsp red. Fell asleep about 10pm. Slept well for a change.

Day 10, normal daily headache 3-4. 6:30am 1/4 tsp green. 9:30am Headache is the same. No pain reduction. Minor head fuzzines. Eyes slightly tired. 10:20am headache now 1-2. 1pm took another 3/4 tsp green. 3:30pm headache still 1-2. Slightly more fuzziness than before. 8pm 3/4 tsp red to try and sleep due to cough.

Day 11, Very tired at 2am but did not sleep till 5am. headache still 1-2. 3/4 tsp green in coffee at 8am for wake up. It worked by 9am but headache still 1-2. 1 tsp green in tea at 1pm. 3pm NO headache and not as tired.

Day 12, 3/4 tsp green in hot water at 6:30am. Headache at 4. 8am 1 tsp green in coffee. 9am headache 3-4.
11am headache 1-2 but moderately spacey.

Day 13 (today), headache 3-4. Took 1 tsp gold in hot water at 8:30am. Headache GONE at 10:30am. Headache coming back at 7pm. Took 1/4 tsp of gold. 8pm headache was still getting worse. Made honey in hot water with 1.5 tsp red because I don't want the gold to keep me awake all night.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 2 days ago #35874

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Nan70 I will try it out. Thank you!
Madmax thanks. I will try out higher dose of certain whites. That may be the ticket right there...
Tiggerman I get migraines as well. I have had luck with mature green strains like raiu. Something about that strain works for me. I think the leaves are more mature than others due to its remote location and thats what does it.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 2 days ago #35875

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Smoothc, thanks for the raiu suggestion. I'll have to get a sample and try it out.
I took 1.5 tsp of the gold ma d at 7am for my daily headache, level 5 today, and by 9am it was completely gone. That's 3 days in a row!
I just received a sample pack from ISB with white ketapang, red borneo, and red thai. Hopefully one of those will help with the leg, back, and hand pain. The gold isn't helping with those pains. I intend to try a higher dose of the white k since that previously gave some leg pain relief.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 1 day ago #35890

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Some Good Info:

Where to Start: Kratom Strains for Pain Relief
To find a good kratom strain for pain, the best place to begin is in the Sunda Islands (Borneo, Bali, Malaysia, Java, Sumatra, etc)

The bottom line?

Most kratom strains found in this region, such as Indonesia, have naturally developed a great alkaloid blend for pain relief, however, they can also be sedating.

For those who want pain relief with little sedation, many Malaysian kratom strains can also be very effective.

Indo, Borneo & Bali
As a rule of thumb, Indo strains, including Borneo and Bali strains, are considered some of the best kratom strains for relieving pain.

But, they tend to be somewhat sedating.

Sedation can be either a good or bad thing depending on the person and condition, so it would be good to take this into account when looking for the ideal strain.

It is important to note: although all these strains have generally similar characteristics, there is some variation between them.

Bali, for instance, tends to be more prone to cause side effects than either Borneo or Indo, but is one of the most reliably potent strains for pain. While Borneo and Indo tend to be smoother in effects and additionally good for stress.

Malaysian Strains
Malaysian strains, especially green Malaysian varieties, are slightly less effective for kratom pain relief, but tend to cause less sedation than Borneo and Bali strains.

Because of this, these strains can be great for anyone who wants a strain that doesn’t interfere with energy levels.

But take note:

Malaysian strains can vary in pain relieving potential. For this reason, you may have to go through some trial and error before finding a reliably potent and pain relieving Malay strain.

Maeng Da
Maeng Da — the “king” of kratom strains — is one of the most popular due to its powerful pain-relieving and stimulating properties.

However, some find Maeng Da to be too stimulating. As such, using Maeng Da for pain may not be a great choice for everyone!

Take note that the characteristics of Maeng Da vary from supplier to supplier, and so it it will take some trial and error before finding the ideal variety for you.

Because each individual has different body and brain chemistry, the only way to find the best kratom for pain is through testing.

Finding the Right Vein Type
Choosing the right vein type is absolutely key to getting optimal pain relief.

There are three common vein types to be aware of:

Red Vein
Green Vein
White Vein
In summary:

Red vein kratom tends to be overall better for pain relief than other strains, but comes with more sedation than the other varieties.

Green vein kratom is another very viable option for pain relief. Greens tends to be more balanced in effects than reds, and as such cause much less sedation. Additionally, green veins tend to last longer overall, and this can be very useful when dealing with pain.

White vein kratom is by far the least effective for pain, but it has many other uses, and as such is worth trying.



Preparation Methods for Maximum Effectiveness
Preparation is an important aspect of getting the most pain relief out of your kratom.

Common methods that are effective for pain include:

Mixtures
Capsules
“Toss and Wash”
If you choose to use capsules, I suggest capping them yourself. The price for kratom in capsules is exorbitant compared to the cost of the pain leaf.

For mixtures, many have found stirring or shaking the leaf powder in a juice or in yogurt very effective.

Beware:

The “toss and wash” method, while effective, involves taking the powder whole and washing it down with a liquid. If you choose this route, start with low doses, as it can go hilariously (and painfully) wrong before you get the technique down.

Because of the solubility of alkaloids found within kratom, it is often less effective to make tea out of the leaf if using it for pain relief — that is unless you drink the leaf material as well.

The reason for this is that many alkaloids may not be fully absorbed into the water, reducing effectiveness.



Kratom and Pain: How does it Work?
One of the most common questions I am asked is why kratom is so effective in this regard. However, to understand the answer, you have to understand how pain works.

When an injury occurs, such as a bruise or burn, affected nerves send a message up the spine to the the central nervous system and brain, which causes a variety of neuronal responses.

One of these responses is the production of endorphins to reduce the perception of this pain.

Alkaloids found in these leaves, especially 7-hydroxymitragynine and mitragynine, function very similarly to the body’s natural endorphins. Once they reach the brain, these kratom alkaloids increase signaling at receptors which reduce the perception of pain of almost all varieties, from the sharp sting from a cut to the dull bone-deep ache of back pain.

Because of this, when looking for a good kratom strain for pain, you will want to find a strain that is high in 7-hydroxymitraginine content.

One of the most amazing things about kratom, unlike other medications, is that it is a plant.

Because of this, we have the ability to breed strains for specific qualities and features, which can make for an even more effective treatment for pain and reduce any potential side effects in the future.

Whether you are dealing with back, nerve pain, or anything else, I hope you have a better idea of where to start a search.
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Anyone know of vendor selling a sedating red strain that's good? 5 months 1 day ago #35915

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Re-Leaf LLC has a Blend called Sedativo . It is designed to relax and put you to sleep depending on amount taken

Also as has been mentioned Red Bentuangie, Red Borneo seem to sedate in the right amounts

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