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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34001

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I use Bali Gold, I have been buying from Gaia Ethnobotanicals for the past couple of years. Today I went there to lay in another 2 or 3 KG of Bali Gold and the price had went way up. I last bought 3 KGs there in Octover 2018.

Any idea why the price increase?

I also looked at Herval Salvation, they don't have Bali Gold but their prices seem to be normal. I have bought from HS before. Not often but I have, Gaia has been my go-to vendor.
Anyway, things labeled as Bali Gold are hard to come by. Green Malay is everywhere but no Gold.

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Is there a reason for the price hike, beyond just normal capitalism?
What is a good substitute for Bali Gold?
(if there is no reason for the price hike I will need a new vendor and to know what to buy as a replacement)

I consume Kratom daily and have done so for about 10 years, I had depression but got upgraded to Complex PTSD. I use about 1 KG of Kratom a month. So I need to buy this at least 1 KG at a time (maybe not the first buy with a new vendor, I would like to see if it is good) I am just trying to give you an idea of the amounts I need and what it is for.
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34003

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Shleprock, welcome to the Forum. I think prices are going up because of seized shipments from the vendors. Not all the Kratom gets through. As far as a good replacement for Bali Gold. I would go with a Super Green Malay. I try to rotate my Kratom to prevent tolerance issues. You can order reds and greens and by trial and error you can make a blend similar in effects to you Gold Bali.

Best advice is order from a few different vendors different strains and reorder what you like or keep trying new vendors.

My current favorite vendor is Re-Leaf LLC(Very fresh and strong Kratom) I also like Canopy botanicals (type Speciosa to see Kratom). Pa Botanicals, EC Botanicals and Insense/Gold Leaf Botanicals. I also hear PDO has great Kratom.

Go to the Forum Index and search for Vedors and see reviews.

Good Luck....
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34005

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First:
I appreciate your helping out.

Super Green sounds good but.I tried someones Super Green Malay before and it was too speedy.

I know, I mentioned I take this for depression, you would think I would want to perk up a bit, but the stuff makes me anxious. So that is no fun.
BUT, as you correctly said, I am going to have to experiment (even plants from the same region are different)

Am I correct to think that

White Strains = Exciting
Red Strains = Sedating
What is Gold supposed to be?
Would this mean that Greens are sort of a middle-of-the-road?


I did not know that rotating strains would cut back on tolerance. believe it or not, after 10 years I use less today than when I had only been using it for about a year. (when i first started, of course, I only took small amounts.

I am going to run and look at your vendors and once i know about the strain I will get started. I still have a KG left so I have a month to figure it out.
(sounds like I am hoarding, but I use daily and Kratom gave me a life, before I survived. With Kratom I sometimes even feel good. So I never want to run out)

Thanks again for helping out
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34007

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You can try Yellow Kratom that is close to the feeling of Gold. you can always mix a red or yellow to get all the benefits.
There are a lot of good strains out there . Greens can be mixed red or yellow to take away any speediness.
Have fun ordering it will be like Christmas for you trying new strains
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34011

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Welcome to the best kratom forum ever, Schleprock.

Inland Botanicals (pre-approved ILK vendor) carries multiple golds. Definitely check them and In Sense/Gold Leaf for samples and price comparison.

Being your monthly needs, it might be wise to look at Total Kratom samples. They offer only samples AND kilos. I can recommend all of these vendors for my metabolism, lol.

Christopher’s Organic Botanicals is a good place to check samples because an ongoing relationship will become more and more affordable for you. He has a green Agatha that you SHOULD try for the effects you’re happy with. I know it’s not GOLD.

Same goes for EZ KRATOM. They offer generous samples and good price breaks on kilos (all vendors mentioned here offer kilo specials.

I agree fully with Jazzfan1.

Oh and be sure to ask for ILK discount codes with these ILK VENDORS.

I moved your thread to the area dedicated to discussing unapproved vendors. We do this to support the vendors on the ILK LIST because they have met with scrutiny AND their policies help support keeping kratom lega, beyond what many are doing with regard to lab testing and cGMP compliance.

Nothing wrong with unapproved vendors, just keep the discussions about them in the FIND A VENDOR / RARE A VENDOR category please.

HAPPY SAMPLE SHOPPING! :-)
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34012

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Also, I’ve been told that whites can be gold, depending on the drying process. But, I’ve also been told they are reds that have been dried in a certain fashion.

If you get some time to read Re-Leaf LLC’s discussion on color/region identity, you’ll find that kratom is not color/region specific and rather, some batches are different from others, but the color means very little. You either find exactly what you respond well to or you don’t. No way can you have been buying product from one tree:batch over your period of use.

Hope that doesn’t confuse you but rather adds confidence that you’ll find exactly what works for you without need to get too much anxiety over the changes from your usual vendor(s).
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 1 week ago #34017

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My last purchases of Bali Gold were from Herbal RVA and Canopy
Need to type speciosa in the search bar for product list
Just checking its still available on their web site and a good price.



The way Kratom is marketed its not going to be the same as what you by from another vendor, I wanted to pass along the info to you. You can't go wrong to order a smaller size and test them out.

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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 5 days ago #34066

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Welcome to ILK Schleprock.:-h The Vendors have to raise their Prices because of the Seizures from Customs. They lose large Shipments sometimes & have to make up for it with the Price Hikes. I've heard this from several Vendors. Usually Customs don't go after smaller shipments but only go after the biggest shipments of Mitragyna. Some Vendors say that they will go back down on their price if they can get all of their Shipments to them. Also the Indo Suppliers have been having to pay more to get it shipped to the US. This is what I've heard.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 4 months 5 days ago #34067

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Bali Gold is a more Rarer Strains that a lot of Vendors just don't carry.

The cheapest I could find Gold Bali is $90 kg at www.kratombuywholesale.com/Kratom-Strains-Pricing.com .

I have no Idea the Quality of it though. Their are a few other Vendors that have it for $125, $140 & $150 per kg but I can't comment on their Quality either because I have not tried them yet.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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Sticker shock at my normal vendor, any reason price should nearly double? 2 months 2 weeks ago #35603

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Thanks to everyone for responding. I read this long ago but then forgot to say thanks.

I am checking out Re-Leafs site. He looks like he is very curious about Kratom. Lots of facts. I had never heard of phenotypes in Kratom, but Re-Leaf knew.
I will search for his discussion on strains.

I am looking to make a change, but this is medicine to me, so I have to get it right. I was pretty sure I knew what to do but am now rethinking it.
At the other shop there were only 1/2 KG and full KG, he has samples.
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