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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43113

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i think the bali would be great for you. there are plenty more orders to be had. I just got in 100 g of the fuzzy dragon last week cause I had to order herbals. and why not toss it in. at less than 20 bucks, why not. it is powerful and good for sedation and pain relief. green md is always a safe bet as well. that was my first strain I tried. hooked ever since! when you know you will probably use it for life there are plenty of vendors and strains to try! I consider it my medicine that my health insurance doesn't cover!
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43110

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Thank you Nan! Thank you michele! I appreciate it.

The linked thread(s) is also helpful as well as the others within. I always felt a sense of information overload myself! If I just stop worrying about the best strains and go with a few to start, I think I'll be happy to start the journey. Honestly I think I need to mute my expectations ("expectation leads to disappointment") but I am hopeful and excited for the potential.

After reading some more of these suggestions, I think I might go with "fuzzy dragon" as one of the 3 samples instead of the 2 reds. Maybe 1) Fuzzy Dragon, 2) Red Bali OR Borneo, 3) Green MD. From there I can get a sense of where to go next. Just a toss-up for me, I think I might go with the Bali unless someone tells me try the Borneo first (or a different red even.)

Thank you for being kind, patient and helpful!
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43107

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I do plan on ordering a 3 sample pack so I was thinking those would be the first 3 to try. I'll look into the ones you mention too.

If you are currently on prescription pain meds make sure you have enough kratom on hand to comfortably taper off your meds and start switching over. If you find one or two of your samples work do not hesitate to order more.

Good luck
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43106

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nan,

have I told you lately how awesome you are? she is the link goddess!
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43104

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Michele got you :-h :-bd
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43103

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it does give you a mood lift and sense of well being. I personally cant take traditional pain pills, but it is sooo much more effective than tramadol without the hassle of begging a doc. I have osteoarthritis and I work 10-14 hours on my feet on average. so it really does help. all of insense/ gold leaf gold strains are amazing as well. a gold vein is a red that's dried differently.
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43101

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Mindspace you may relate to this? We got you covered.
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/introduce-yourself/8405-...journey#.XW2m5ChKiUk

Read a little bit and then start a conversation when you need to have any questions answered.
Insense/ Goldleaf they come in Ziplocs and they recently upgraded I heard its very nice.
All the samples are labeled with their logo.
If you are ready for the powder and have an idea in how to dose with it you should be ready to place an order. If you are a little bit worried and want to start with capsules I think I listed the top 4 or 5 in that link.
(capsules are expensive and if you need a higher dose it means taking many at one time, but for some its a comfortable way to start)
There are 3 strains
Red
Green
White

Red and Green are the most pain relieving but sample a white too.

Most people when switching off pain meds will start with Red strains seem to help most with withdrawal symptoms.
don't worry about the many different names just pick about three or so.
I use Green strains during the day to function at work then switch to Reds at night for evening pain relief.
From Insense I have used- Red Hulu, Red Sumatra, Green Hulu, Green Riau, Green Thai


Kratom can have a learning curve. sometimes it takes experimenting with strains and doses sometimes its an easy switch.
Any concerns just ask.

I will link a discount code as soon as I find it.

P.S- all approved vendors are vetted. They are professional and offer excellent customer. You can call most of them as long as you are not asking where it appears you are seeking medical advice
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43099

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Thank you for the reply! Yeah the euphoria isn't a goal but if he gets any of that sense of well-being, it will help with opiate cravings unfortunately. Of course the pain relief is #1.
I do know it's powder in a bag but to clarify I meant if it's a clear plastic bag with a sticker or whatnot or if it looks like commercial packaging. I know what to expect but it will just help psychologically if I bring the person something that looks more produced. I know I can trust these sources and so the package it's in wouldn't matter. I just think it'll help convince them to try it. Once they know it works and trustworthy, it's not even something that matters anymore.
I do plan on ordering a 3 sample pack so I was thinking those would be the first 3 to try. I'll look into the ones you mention too.
Thank you and thank you for the coupon code!
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43097

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hey mindspace!

the good news is since you are now part of the ILK family, theres a constant discount at in sense/ gold leaf. 15% off everything (other than sample promo packs) its ILKFORME15%

but honestly if you need euphoria I/we cant promise that. its all individual. I can tell you from my own experience it just makes me 'normal' and able to work. and I can tell you my husband got the suboxone demon off his back for good. and he tried many times.

it really just is powder in a bag. unless you go through a vendor that sells capsules.

you are on the right track already on strains to try. their dark red MD, red dragon, and fuzzy dragon are superior. gold strains work very well to for daytime. mellow energy with pain relief. but it really is an individual journey. I suggest ordering a sample pack or 2 from at least one or 2 vendors approved here. insense was one of my first once I found the forum and I probably order from them the most often. their 'other herbals' section is very reasonable and top notch.
akuamma and incarviella are great in addition to the leaf. for nighttime I personally also suggest corydalis or skullcap.

good luck and let us know if you have any other specific questions
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25% OFF E-CHECK SALE....NOW at In Sense Botanicals and Gold Leaf Botanicals..... 10 months 3 days ago #43091

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Well first off, it's very disappointing I missed this sale! Any other current sales going on??

My question is... do the sample powders from Gold Leaf come in plastic bags or commercial packaging? While this is ultimately not important to me, it will help get the person I'm trying to move to Kratom for pain if it looks more "professional" only psychologically. It's more difficult to convince them if it's just powder in a bag.

This will be my first time trying it and then introducing them to it. I've heard a lot about it and read a lot but haven't tried it yet. The thing is, there are so many strains and so many reports (and so many vendors) that it's actually a bit overwhelming.

The person suffers from pain that only opiates have helped (unfortunately they've come to like the euphoria too.) For pain, what would the recommended strain be? Red Bali? Red Borneo? Something else? Euphoria / feelings of well being will only help a hopeful move away from opiates.

Also, what is the best for day time stimulation; energy, focus, motivation; without being overly stimulating to the point of heart racing or anxiety. Green Maeng Da maybe?

Thank you for any response!
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